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It is impressive how much effort the human race is spending trying to prevent algorithms from generating pictures of naked people.
I don’t see the issue; either you severely limit your model or you allow all forms of expression and give responsibility to the generator
The latter would be preferred by most, and is most aligned with individualism, but sadly that is not where we are as a society. There are an entire class of people who believe they know what is best for you, about nearly every subject matter, and wish to limit all aspects of technology, life, politics, etc, to suit their superior beliefs.
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Like bullying, there's a fix for it, but schools (especially public schools) typically lack the resources, capabilities, and incentives to do anything about it.
AI stuff aside, what's the cure for bullying?
Supervision and intervention?
Supportive environment?
Friendship?
Discovery of the people around us?
Anonymous support forums?
Peer contacts?
Not making self-defense illegal?
I mean I'm sure we could launch more research into what might possibly work but we do have some to get started with. It's not like ONLY non-verbal people are being bullied and can('t) talk about it.
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Like bullying, there's a fix for it, but schools (especially public schools) typically lack the resources, capabilities, and incentives to do anything about it.
AI stuff aside, what's the cure for bullying?
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This is a justifiable worry, but there are two reasons we shouldn't accept it: 1. If there are easy nudes of _everyone_ then there are no nudes of anyone. Admittedly, this is going to take a bit to culturally sink in, but eventually a generated nude will have very little value outside of a perverts own personal desires. 2. "Think of the children" has always been a very poor argument used to artificially restrict the…
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We don’t actually have numbers on how many people ended their life for being unable to generate porn they want. Before calling this idea absurd or too far fetched (which it likely is), think about those who ought to end their life because of pics they don’t want and compare the fetch distances. It’s amusing how society tends to ignore a thousand miles leading to an unfortunate event and only focuses on the last one.…
It's extra amusing (read: horrifying) how moralists use children to manipulate people and bypass their sense of reason to go straight for the monkeybrain. As a society, we need to call this out and shut it down as soon as it arises. Preferably whilst shutting down the people and organizations who do it.
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Boiling the ocean type solutions are the same as doing nothing. A better solution would be to make creating such things very illegal and bring down the same wrath we do for CSAM. There is no amount of "mental health" that can protect you against targeted bullying of that magnitude. I really wish we had a universe simulator so you could see how miserably you would fail to survive an environment like that.
If a naked picture of you is causing you to choose suicide I think we need to fix how society views nudity. The answer isn't to make nudity illegal. We're going to end up blinding ourselves on purpose to avoid seeing our own nudity if we go down your road.
1. Complete loss of privacy and control over your image.
2. Shame and embarrassment, especially in high school where every boy will look at you different and reduce you to a sexual object.
3. Public humiliation -- those photos can and do lead to ridicule and bullying. You're the one who is naked while everyone else is clothed.
4. Destroys self-esteem -- high school is already terrible in this regard but it's hard to have any kind of self worth when a sex object and some porn is how your classmates know you.
5. Takes away your agency -- its doesn't matter if the photos aren't real, they can make you do anything in those photos and to a 3rd party viewer there's no difference.
6. It's degrading -- they're not gonna be tasteful nudes and pretending as such is naive. And it doesn't matter if you don't find the acts degrading when everyone else does.
It's not making nudity illegal, it's making and distributing sexually explicit images of a person whiteout their consent illegal.
It is impressive how much effort the human race is spending trying to prevent algorithms from generating pictures of naked people.
It is impressive how much effort the human race is spending trying to prevent algorithms from generating pictures of naked people.
Apparently AI engineers never saw renaissance nude paintings or naked ancient Greece or Roman statues.