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The $55M saga of a Netflix series nobody will ever see

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Post by jiggawatts »

burningChrome wrote: post #149
RajT88 wrote: post #10

I love these stories of sci-fi movie diasasters. There are just as many insane stories of "amazing this classic ever got made". On the topic of disasters, I recommend reading about The Starlost: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlost

Reminds me of the outrage over the $100M budget of Water World and how it barely got made. Today, a $100M budget is nothing. We've already had several $300M budget films this year. Hollywood can be so crazy sometimes.

Adjust those for inflation, and also the larger market these days (more international viewers paying nearly full price).

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Post by supermatt »

They (all major streaming services) throw away millions on series they never release, they reduce spending on new series, and yet they still manage to increase the cost of the service - and some are even adding pre-roll advertising?

I was a huge advocate for these streaming services, but with the unjustified pricing hikes, ongoing georestriction of content, and the addition of advertising into a paid service, it has now come full circle and I feel the return to torrents is inevitable.

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Post by abenga »

mavhc wrote: post #90
rightbyte wrote: post #23

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It is strange they can fail so bad, since Star Trek is essentially a setup to make any story at all each episode. I mean, McFarlains comedy-as-an-excuse Not-Star Trek Star Trek is so much more Star Trek than the new series ... at a way lower budget. Imagine if they gave him the job instead.

Which new series?

Probably The Orville.

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Post by safety1st »

WalterBright wrote: post #85
hinkley wrote: post #55

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SciFi did a miniseries, just before or just after they changed their name. It wasn't bad. I think it was about 10 hours. The problem is that a lot of the payoff is at the end of book 3, and then book four tips the whole thing upside down with some deep religious and philosophical elements that I'm not sure everyone is ready for. I'm always a little surprised how few people have read Dune relative to Lord of the Rings…

I don't understand all the love for Dune. I read it, it was ok, and that was it. 3 underwhelming film adaptations is more than enough. Special effects don't make a movie anymore. What matters is plot (and music). For example, "Colossus the Forbin Project" is very good. Some other very good scifi movies: . Invaders from Mars . Flash Gordon (1980) . Terminator . Star Wars IV . Alien

While Dune can certainly stand on its own as a great work, it's best appreciated as a critical response to the utopic techno-determinism of Asimov's Foundation series. The discourse between these two series contains some of the most interesting ideas ever penned in science fiction. I think you'd need to read at least the first three Foundation books and the first four Dune books to get a handle on it, but this is a good primer: https://www.oreilly.com/tim/herbert/ch05.html

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Post by gopher_space »

kadoban wrote: post #113
WalterBright wrote: post #85

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I don't understand all the love for Dune. I read it, it was ok, and that was it. 3 underwhelming film adaptations is more than enough. Special effects don't make a movie anymore. What matters is plot (and music). For example, "Colossus the Forbin Project" is very good. Some other very good scifi movies: . Invaders from Mars . Flash Gordon (1980) . Terminator . Star Wars IV . Alien

> I don't understand all the love for Dune. I read it, it was ok, and that was it. 3 underwhelming film adaptations is more than enough. It's the Count of Monte Cristo meets Star Wars, with great world building, pretty good plot and characters and a lot of interesting philosophy, sociology, strategy and tactics. What's not to love? The scifi miniseries was decent. The 1984 one was...barely Dune, though I enjoyed it.…

1984 Dune captured the strangeness of that universe in a way the modern version does not.

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Post by prox »

no_wizard wrote: post #126
dylan604 wrote: post #16

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Sounds like Jodorwsky's Dune[0] where it's famous for not getting made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky%27s_Dune

IMO Dune needs to be a tv show that likely runs several seasons so all the world and backstory can be explored properly so the audience can get a full experience. Think The Wire in terms of plot discovery and forwarding (leaves out bogus exposition, means you have to pay attention to get things etc that moves along at a good pace and has forward development each episode. It would be expensive, but it’s the only way I…

I love the adaptation of Foundation, if Apple can do the same for Dune, that would be amazing.

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Post by quickthrower2 »

function_seven wrote: post #39

From the Times article: > [Rinsch] transferred more than $4 million from his Schwab account to an account on the Kraken exchange and bought Dogecoin, a dog-themed cryptocurrency. Guy sounds like a dummy > Unlike his stock market investments, this one paid off: When he liquidated his Dogecoin positions in May 2021, he had a balance of nearly $27 million. Shit, maybe I'm the dummy?

He did effectively an SBF, leveraging someone else's money. By the way you could have put $4m on Frankie Dettori too, and be a smart dummy.

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Post by petre »

wombatpm wrote: post #79
katbyte wrote: post #35

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HBOmax - removed a ton of shows (some well regarded) for the tax write offs

Followed by the corporate rebrand from HBOMax to Max

That's nearly as dumb as the rebrand from Twitter to X. What's their leadership doing, adapting their brands to the public's ADD?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

WalterBright wrote: post #93
dotcoma wrote: post #4

Isn’t $55 M little more than a rounding error for a company like Netflix ?

If somebody stole $55M from them, I'm sure Netflix would go after them hammer and tong.

Not necessarily because of the $55M per se though, but because they need to discourage further stealing.

It would be like someone shoplifting $100 of stuff from a corner store.

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