Live data from Hacker News

Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

kulesz.me

61–68 of 68 posts

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#61

There was a project back in 2013 called PORTAL. "Personal Onion Router to Assure Liberty". It used a GL.iNet travel router. At that time, there were no model numbers. I bought one ($18 on the 'Zon), and upgraded the flash to 64GB. The company noticed that 1) folks were upgrading storage, and 2) hackers were adding pins so they could connect to the serial port. They then modified their production to include both of th…

>despite knowing they have anti-features built in

Can you elaborate on that? I am on version 4 and don't see anything hostile. And there is always luci if you need something more advanced.

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#63

There was a project back in 2013 called PORTAL. "Personal Onion Router to Assure Liberty". It used a GL.iNet travel router. At that time, there were no model numbers. I bought one ($18 on the 'Zon), and upgraded the flash to 64GB. The company noticed that 1) folks were upgrading storage, and 2) hackers were adding pins so they could connect to the serial port. They then modified their production to include both of th…

>despite knowing they have anti-features built in Can you elaborate on that? I am on version 4 and don't see anything hostile. And there is always luci if you need something more advanced.

Depending on your definition, I have seen such things as third party authentication and closed source firmware blobs called "Anti-Features".

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#64

I've been using the GL.INET GL-AR300M16 router for a couple of years. They work incredibly well. I can go to any hotel or cafe, plug it in the back of any free USB port (existing routers, TVs, or power banks if necessary) and away I go. If there's ethernet I plug it in, or if it's wifi then I can just auth through the router. That's all. Immediately I have all of my devices functioning as if I am still at home with a…

I think you have V and A switched around.

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#65
post #5

This is awesome. I had always had a travel/pocket wi-fi router since a long-long time. Started from the likes of D-Link, TP-Link, etc and now my next target is to check out one from GL•iNet[1]. They are flashable with OpenWRT. Their Beryl AX[2] looks spicy. I find the benefit of a router with you when traveling are; - More secure (you can set it up the way you want). - Your device(s) do not need to be configured to w…

Also wanted to share about gl.inet. I've used their other products (convexa) and was pretty happy about it. The creta travel router offer power over ethernet too. https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-ar750/

Creta (GL-AR750) is discontinued.

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#66

There was a project back in 2013 called PORTAL. "Personal Onion Router to Assure Liberty". It used a GL.iNet travel router. At that time, there were no model numbers. I bought one ($18 on the 'Zon), and upgraded the flash to 64GB. The company noticed that 1) folks were upgrading storage, and 2) hackers were adding pins so they could connect to the serial port. They then modified their production to include both of th…

>despite knowing they have anti-features built in Can you elaborate on that? I am on version 4 and don't see anything hostile. And there is always luci if you need something more advanced.

At one time when the router was powered up, it would attempt to send your IP address and router serial number back to GL.iNet. Theoretically, that was to enable a Dynamic DNS service that they ran. It could be turned off, but if you had it connected to the Internet at the time, your info leaked. So I would ensure the first power-on had no WAN, so I could go in and turn off all that stuff. I consider that a dark pattern, and it makes me generally suspicious of the vendor.

Not that I'm not a big fan. These things are exactly what I need for travel. And my company sends me places with iffy Internet connectivity, so I have found it incredibly useful to have a tiny device which can set WAN to be wireless, wired, or cell-modem. I used to wipe it and reload with OpenWRT.

When you find a company who sees what users are doing (like populating the serial port), and that company changes their device to do that by default, you've got someone who actually cares about customers.

The problem, really, is China. Just like Russia, China has laws requiring full cooperation with the MSS by all electronics manufacturers. So I just assume breach, meaning my devices are either back-doored at the factory, or are sigint-ready just by pushing out a new system image. If they have your device ID and external IP address, they can probably target specific people who are high-value.

Just to be fair, the NSA has been caught fiddling with crypto to make it "sigint ready". Snowden showed photos of NSA re-boxing Cisco gear (where do you suppose they got that Cisco-branded anti-tamper tape?) Everyone spies; it's just a fact of life.

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#67
post #31

I'm surprised to find there's not more demand for "back to back" travel wifi routers, e.g. so you can connect once to a hotel wifi and immediately all devices are connected via the router's own wifi. This is useful not just for working around device limits but also for simplicity of setup when you have kids.

This is my exact use case for my GL.iNET device. Get to a hotel, get connected once, works with all our devices. Easy peasy.

Re: Building a freedom-friendly WiFi pocket-router (2020)

#68

I've been using the GL.INET GL-AR300M16 router for a couple of years. They work incredibly well. I can go to any hotel or cafe, plug it in the back of any free USB port (existing routers, TVs, or power banks if necessary) and away I go. If there's ethernet I plug it in, or if it's wifi then I can just auth through the router. That's all. Immediately I have all of my devices functioning as if I am still at home with a…

I think you have V and A switched around.

You're right, my apologies
Post reply on HN