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Post by cpeterso »

a_t48 wrote: post #162
RajT88 wrote: post #10

I love these stories of sci-fi movie diasasters. There are just as many insane stories of "amazing this classic ever got made". On the topic of disasters, I recommend reading about The Starlost: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlost

Is The Starlost worth watching? The episode summaries look neat, but the reception/reviews don’t look so good.

Wikipedia says The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction described the show as "dire" and The Best of Science Fiction TV included the show on its list of "Worst Science Fiction Shows of All Time”. But the full episodes are available on YouTube, so as a fan of 70s sci-fi, I’ll decide for myself. :)

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Post by dylan604 »

dmos62 wrote: post #103
dylan604 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the "2-3 hours of the hobbit which was good" are you including the animated versions as well? I'd be hard pressed to find 2-3 hours from the travesty that Jackson made

What didn't you like about it?

With all of the creative licensing that was taken with the content, I was really hoping that the Hobbit would have reduced the camp and gave it different tone to match the rest of the "universe". Instead, we got 20 minutes of dwarves throwing plates around and singing songs that does nothing except show examples of how the thinnest book was turned into 3 friggin' movies.

That's just one of the issues I had, but they don't get any nicer from there

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Post by WalterBright »

jonhohle wrote: post #179
matwood wrote: post #106

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Alien(s) - FTFY ;)

There’s so much good dialog in Aliens that I’m always amazed was written in the mid 80s and would play just as well if it were new today (mostly spoken by Hudson): “Game over, man!”, “yeah, but it’s a dry heat”, “ Somebody said "alien" she thought they said ‘illegal alien’ and signed up!”

Aliens is more of a vanilla monster movie than scifi. I don't recall any science in it, other than the setting.

Alien was based on a short story in "Voyage of the Space Beagle", though the implementation of it was fresh. The discovery and exploration of the alien's life cycle was good scifi.

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Post by lmm »

neilv wrote: post #121

> Netflix executives grew so concerned with Mr. Rinsch’s behavior that they consulted with the Los Angeles Police Department’s threat management unit, a person with knowledge of the matter said. A Police Department psychologist reviewed Mr. Rinsch’s texts and emails and concluded that he didn’t seem like a threat to himself or others. Were executives concerned about possible risks to people, or were they trying to us…

> Rinsch sounded from other assertions in the article like he was having some kind of mental health and/or substance challenges. But I don't understand the uncritical acceptance of this bit by the journalist.

Presumably that was one of the "detailed questions" that he "declined to respond" to.

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Post by WillPostForFood »

stevage wrote: post #175
WalterBright wrote: post #85

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I don't understand all the love for Dune. I read it, it was ok, and that was it. 3 underwhelming film adaptations is more than enough. Special effects don't make a movie anymore. What matters is plot (and music). For example, "Colossus the Forbin Project" is very good. Some other very good scifi movies: . Invaders from Mars . Flash Gordon (1980) . Terminator . Star Wars IV . Alien

Strange choices. ESB is in almost every way a much better film than Star Wars. T2 much better than T1. Aliens better than Alien. I haven't seen the other two, bet I'll just assume they also have better sequels.

T2 much better than T1. Aliens better than Alien.

These are great sequels, but they are Hollywood action movies compared to their predecessors. I do prefer ESB, but Star Wars has better structure and a more satisfying ending, so it is close.

The best thing about ALien is that when it came out, you had no idea who the "hero" was in the crew. Tom Skerritt was the biggest star, had first billing, and was the white male captain. There was no expectation the someone else would be the hero and survivor.

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Post by WalterBright »

stevage wrote: post #175
WalterBright wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand all the love for Dune. I read it, it was ok, and that was it. 3 underwhelming film adaptations is more than enough. Special effects don't make a movie anymore. What matters is plot (and music). For example, "Colossus the Forbin Project" is very good. Some other very good scifi movies: . Invaders from Mars . Flash Gordon (1980) . Terminator . Star Wars IV . Alien

Strange choices. ESB is in almost every way a much better film than Star Wars. T2 much better than T1. Aliens better than Alien. I haven't seen the other two, bet I'll just assume they also have better sequels.

Star Wars: I saw it the day after it was released. It was groundbreaking in every way. Nobody had seen anything like it before. It just blew everybody away. ESB just did not have the impact SW did.

T1 was very focused. Again, nobody had seen anything like it before. The terminator stayed true to form in its relentless purpose, summed up in Reese's little speech. T2 rehashed the same plot, adding an asperger sidekick robot for comic relief. (I thought Harlan Ellison was way off base claiming that T1 was stolen from him.)

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Post by WalterBright »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #186
stevage wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strange choices. ESB is in almost every way a much better film than Star Wars. T2 much better than T1. Aliens better than Alien. I haven't seen the other two, bet I'll just assume they also have better sequels.

T2 much better than T1. Aliens better than Alien. These are great sequels, but they are Hollywood action movies compared to their predecessors. I do prefer ESB, but Star Wars has better structure and a more satisfying ending, so it is close. The best thing about ALien is that when it came out, you had no idea who the "hero" was in the crew. Tom Skerritt was the biggest star, had first billing, and was the white male…

The dorm I was in saw it on the first day. We had no idea what was coming. It was a total shocker!

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Post by jjice »

motohagiography wrote: post #123

They foucus on the dollar amount, but the startup graveyard of software companies who raised $50M or more by their series A or B that nobody will have heard of seems much larger. Movies and series seem pretty low risk by comparison. A movie studio and a venture fund seem to have similar economics.

This was directly blown without making the project. At least a VC funded startup would try (hopefully).

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Post by WalterBright »

Krasnol wrote: post #145
WalterBright wrote: post #141

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I do have all the books, but never started reading the sequels.

I wouldn't consider them just "sequels" of the first one. As I said, the first book introduces the world. The story itself spans over an immense time. I was only talking about the books written by Frank Herbert btw.

I don't know if you've convinced me to read them, but thanks for the telling me something I didn't know.
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