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Re: Shopify live dashboard

#101

Post by theduder99 »

tacker2000 wrote: post #46
tallanvor wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is BS, of course. There's no way to really measure this.

Well you can somewhat calculate the CO2 emitted by a parcel shipped from X to Y. Of course it will depend on loads of factors, like did they use a plane, a truck, a barge with one guy sitting inside rowing gently down the stream, etc… so im not sure how exact their numbers will be. Basically it means nothing anyway, but companies love to tout how “green” they are, dont they?

I get that its virtue signaling but who is the intended audience who would actually believe it and appreciate it?

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#102

Post by ndriscoll »

qiller wrote: post #69
ndriscoll wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dashboard shows 25k orders per minute right now (~400/s). A modern server shouldn't even be close to 1% utilization to handle that.

While 400 TPS might not be huge, there is still a lot of processing that goes into placing each order, and it's easy to underestimate the necessary capacity. Latencies add up (a call to a tax service, a call to a shipping service, etc), state adds up, and suddenly it's way over 1%.

Latency doesn't affect throughput. As soon as you fire off a call to an external vendor, your server can work on processing the next request. It doesn't matter if that call takes 10 ms or 5 seconds. Even if it took 30 seconds, that means you need to be able to handle 12k concurrent requests (almost all of which are asleep), which is nothing.

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#103

Post by tacker2000 »

theduder99 wrote: post #101
tacker2000 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you can somewhat calculate the CO2 emitted by a parcel shipped from X to Y. Of course it will depend on loads of factors, like did they use a plane, a truck, a barge with one guy sitting inside rowing gently down the stream, etc… so im not sure how exact their numbers will be. Basically it means nothing anyway, but companies love to tout how “green” they are, dont they?

I get that its virtue signaling but who is the intended audience who would actually believe it and appreciate it?

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Re: Shopify live dashboard

#104

Post by CodeWriter23 »

JLCarveth wrote: post #66
xkekjrktllss wrote: post #65

The 'carbon removed' figure is so extremely cringe

Do you have any better criticism than that something is "cringe"? Otherwise this reads like something a teenager would write.

Maybe they could seriously claim carbon reduction if they had an optimized logistics network like Amazon. Otherwise they don't really know how merchants handle and deliver their wares.

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#105

Post by ChrisArchitect »

halvo wrote: post #53
xal wrote: post #26

We have been doing BFCM dashboards for the past 10 years now. It's always one of the most fun projects at Shopify and a great tradition now. You know, it's pretty abstract to run internet software companies. Seeing a visualization like this makes it a lot more relateable even for the folks that work here. This year we packed it with lots of fun details ( https://twitter.com/Shopify/status/1728040379163771020 ). Like…

Is BFCM a well known acronym? I get that it’s about Black Friday but can’t figure out the CM and don’t see it written out anywhere

that acronym use became steadily more common/popular with marketers / social media in the past 5 years

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#107

Post by burke »

Scarbutt wrote: post #88
obiefernandez wrote: post #19

But, but... Rails doesn't scale!!!!!

It also could be that something like Java/Go/Rust is doing the hard work.

I’m not sure what the globe is written but I’m pretty sure the comment is referring to the shopify core platform scaling to that many dollars of throughput, and while, yes, certainly there are peripheral bits in a variety of languages, the core is still very much a rails project.

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#108

Post by burke »

tallanvor wrote: post #22
toomuchtodo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.shopify.com/climate/bfcm (From the link on the dashboard when you click that stat) > All orders made through our platform over the Black Friday Cyber Monday shopping weekend will ship carbon neutral. > Here's how it works: A rigorous formula built by Shopify data scientists calculates the estimated carbon emissions for each Black Friday Cyber Monday shipment. We then team up with Shopify Sustainability Fu…

Which is BS, of course. There's no way to really measure this.

Good point, better not try.

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#109

Post by alphaddx »

entropie wrote: post #73
tiberriver256 wrote: post #29

Amazing how concentrated the wealth of the world is.

I find it interesting that of as I look (around 18:00 GMT) that there is so much traffic in GB but not the other parts in europe. Image reference: https://i.imgur.com/2Les0QX.png Is it safe to assume that brexit is the reason?

There should be a something similar to Godwin's law but for any discussion about UK. The longer the thread the more likely someone will mention Brexit.

Re: Shopify live dashboard

#110

Post by maronato »

Scarbutt wrote: post #89
ndriscoll wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dashboard shows 25k orders per minute right now (~400/s). A modern server shouldn't even be close to 1% utilization to handle that.

I can build that in a weekend!

Why even have a whole system for it? Just expose an FTP server and let users edit an “orders.txt” file
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