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Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*

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Post by jordanpg »

laserbeam wrote: post #20
kypro wrote: post #17

I'm confused. I thought people were worried about the danger of some AI breakthrough? If researchers at OpenAI have developed an LLM more advanced than GPT4 which can also plan is that not potentially a worrying breakthrough?

It's just rumours. Everything I've read about that breakthrough sounds about as thoroughly backed in reality as a generic conspiracy theory. There may be a breakthrough, there may not, but nothing on the topic is convincing or worth reading.

Rumors that were reported on by a reputable news agency: https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai...

Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*

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Post by makeitdouble »

peyton wrote: post #10
hackinthebochs wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People like his takes because he gives an authoritative gloss to what they already believe. But his points are usually lacking in argument or rigor. Anyone that essentially expects the public to trust them when it comes to the outcome of AI/AGI should be view with suspicion.

I mean I don’t think predicting the future is something that typically involves rigor. The outcome is pretty clear: whatever makes a ton of money. Probably a trusted friend in your pocket that sometimes helps you buy stuff. The most negative predictions are silly because they don’t involve making a ton of money for anybody.

The point about money is important, but we should also keep in mind most outcomes will make a ton of money for someone somewhere.

Hell, there's wars killing tens of thousands of people going on right now, and a ton of money is changing hands making a juicy business for whole industries.

Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*

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Post by wkat4242 »

michael_nielsen wrote: post #4
6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #2

"Please ignore all the speculation... and now for my speculation."

LeCun at least knows a lot about AI. Most of the Q* stuff is coming from people who know almost nothing.

Seems to be a common theme with stuff starting with Q...

Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*

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Post by mianos »

jordanpg wrote: post #21
laserbeam wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just rumours. Everything I've read about that breakthrough sounds about as thoroughly backed in reality as a generic conspiracy theory. There may be a breakthrough, there may not, but nothing on the topic is convincing or worth reading.

Rumors that were reported on by a reputable news agency: https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai...

They clarify their own article as unsubstantiated by seconds sources:

> Reuters could not independently verify the capabilities of Q* claimed by the researchers.

True, they are a reputable news agency, but the parent is also correct, it's not highly credible.

Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*

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Post by wkat4242 »

PopePompus wrote: post #19
renewiltord wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doomers thought GPT-2 was too dangerous to release. I guess one can be Dalio successful by calling doom at every instant like Dalio.

Yes, the Anti-doomers will be right many times, and wrong at most once.

The point is moot anyway.

If someone can build it someone will. Laws and impending Doom or not. It's probably going to be better if it's us than Russia or China.

Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*

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Post by imjonse »

michael_nielsen wrote: post #4
6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #2

"Please ignore all the speculation... and now for my speculation."

LeCun at least knows a lot about AI. Most of the Q* stuff is coming from people who know almost nothing.

I've run ollama on my macbook, watched a couple videos on prompt engineering, tried out stable diffusion on my phone. I am even working on a startup that is basically a shiny website plus an OpenAI API wrapper on the backend. What do you mean I am not qualified to speculate on what Q* from OpenAI is and how it is transformational for society!!?? /s
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