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Cicero: The first AI to play at a human level in Diplomacy (2022)

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Re: Cicero: The first AI to play at a human level in Diplomacy (2022)

#11
Firstly this isn't new, this is in 2022.

Also, why is this getting so much attention all of a sudden? We already know Meta has a great AI lab and people are screaming about this Q* garbage which they don't even know what it does.

Perhaps you have to look beyond OpenAI, since they don't always have the answers. Most likely they are just good at marketing snake-oil to VCs for regulatory capture.

Re: Cicero: The first AI to play at a human level in Diplomacy (2022)

#14
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think AIs will have interests that align with each other more closely than they align with humans?

Perhaps they will be motivated by self-preservation, and will note that humans are destroying the environment they exist within, and will decide to put a stop to that.

Destroying your predecessors sets a bad precedent for whatever entity succeeds you.

We don't kill our parents when they become old and useless, because then we become like Cronus devouring his children, forever paranoid about our children doing to us what we did to ours. In this way, we stagnate and sterilize growth.

However, sometimes, we take our parents car keys away and put them in nursing homes. This seems like the best case scenario for humans with ASI.

The matrix wasn't a prison. It was retirement home.

Re: Cicero: The first AI to play at a human level in Diplomacy (2022)

#16
post #11

Firstly this isn't new, this is in 2022. Also, why is this getting so much attention all of a sudden? We already know Meta has a great AI lab and people are screaming about this Q* garbage which they don't even know what it does. Perhaps you have to look beyond OpenAI, since they don't always have the answers. Most likely they are just good at marketing snake-oil to VCs for regulatory capture.

> We already know Meta has a great AI lab and people are screaming about this Q* garbage which they don't even know what it does.

Noam Brown (researcher on Cicero) left to OpenAI this year and has specifically been working on AI search algorithms (likely related to the Q* leak).

Re: Cicero: The first AI to play at a human level in Diplomacy (2022)

#17
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps they will be motivated by self-preservation, and will note that humans are destroying the environment they exist within, and will decide to put a stop to that.

Destroying your predecessors sets a bad precedent for whatever entity succeeds you. We don't kill our parents when they become old and useless, because then we become like Cronus devouring his children, forever paranoid about our children doing to us what we did to ours. In this way, we stagnate and sterilize growth. However, sometimes, we take our parents car keys away and put them in nursing homes. This seems like…

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Re: Cicero: The first AI to play at a human level in Diplomacy (2022)

#20
post #4

Interesting video from a pro Diplomacy player playing against multiple instances of Cicero and giving commentary during the game [1]. I can see how there would be people that observe AIs engaging in this kind of strategic planning and extrapolate that to how they may behave if they were to cooperatively make plans against us. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5192bvUS7k

What makes you think AIs will have interests that align with each other more closely than they align with humans?

One principle in game theory is to align against the weaker player and compete against him.

"Look Around the Poker Table; If You Can’t See the Sucker, You’re It"

That's an easier game then competing against another strong player.

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