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Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#22

This is incredibly dumb on Kickstarter's part. Why not just give project managers the ability to turn off comments if spam is getting out of control? Unless I'm missing something, comments are not an integral part of Kickstarter's function. Anyway, if comments were turned off, a potential contributor could just reach out via email or some type of private message if they had a concern about the project. And obviously…

You seem to have a bit of information on this. Can you post the proof available besides the unverifiable blog post?

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#23

I'm wondering what is the possibility that the cyberstalker is a creation of the "TRANSMEDIA ARTIST, BRAND DEVELOPER, AND FUTURIST"? It certainly fits into those categories. Just speculation.

Good point. I'm still waiting for proof. In many ways, it's sad and wrong that people are calling for KickStarter to do anything before any shred of proof is provided.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#25

Kickstarter, if you care about your reputation, fix this and make sure it never happens again.

Fix what? Going by what we know, someone has made a claim without anything to back it up. Should we encourage groundless accusations? I'd like to think members of HN would be a bit more intelligent about this sort of thing. Let's try to be a bit more rational about this and not just grab the torches and pitchforks.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#28
You should not feed the troll.

You responding to the "stalker" creates an impression that conversation is going on; and the conversation is not pretty. Instead, you should wipe and ban. Preferably done by site admins, not the victim herself.

Of course Kickstarter should unban the victim but only after she agrees to never respond to the stalker on Kickstarter. Instead, report. Nobody would blame you if you don't participate in annoying behavior.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#29

I'm wondering what is the possibility that the cyberstalker is a creation of the "TRANSMEDIA ARTIST, BRAND DEVELOPER, AND FUTURIST"? It certainly fits into those categories. Just speculation.

Good point. I'm still waiting for proof. In many ways, it's sad and wrong that people are calling for KickStarter to do anything before any shred of proof is provided.

I think it's perfectly justified to call on Kickstarter to do something: namely, to reply to the allegations.

If Kickstarter says "hey, this is all wrong", and Ms Marone maintains that the incident did happen, then we can start weighing proof and credibility. Alternatively, if Kickstarter says "oops, our fault, and we're changing our processes", then no proof needs to be supplied.

But first, we need to know Kickstarter's side.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#30
post #9

This is exactly the situation Kickstarter should be on top of. Imagine someone was going to make a hugely disruptive project and some BigCo PR firm hires a bunch of astroturfers to post 400 comments about how the project leader is a fraud. Now we know the astroturfers don't even need to ward off backers, they can just get Kickstarter to shut the project down. Megaupload song vs. UMG sockpuppets anybody?

> Now we know the astroturfers don't even need to ward off backers, they can just get Kickstarter to shut the project down.

We do? Again, I ask, where is the proof of what we know?

What we do know is that you can make a post on a blog making claims about a popular company saying they did something bad, get it on HN, and people will start demanding said company respond and handle it without waiting for proof.

Yes, the accusations are serious. Yes, if true, it should be handled, but knee-jerk reactions like this are just as bad the charges laid against KickStarter.

Let's use reason and intelligence, not anger and emotion.

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