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Please, everybody, remember to be civil and give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
And people can permanently loose their account over this? I guess they've just lost a lot of founders. Permanently.
I don't think that it is necessarily fair to be extremely critical of Kickstarter. I think that we should consider the viewpoint of the respondent to her, he probably thinks that she in some way caused the stalker to spam her project. I agree 100% that this problem should be fixed - but I don't think that Kickstarter would intentionally ban her account for this situation if they had the full story, and now that it ha…
he probably thinks that she in some way caused the stalker to spam her project. No matter what happened here, this entire concept is horribly, horribly wrong. It's blaming the victim -- saying that it's somehow her fault for "causing" the stalker to do something... as opposed to the stalker's fault, for stalking .
If Kickstarter does respond to this by maintaining their stance, then there's a huge problem. Until then, it's more a case of an incompetent employee.
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he probably thinks that she in some way caused the stalker to spam her project. No matter what happened here, this entire concept is horribly, horribly wrong. It's blaming the victim -- saying that it's somehow her fault for "causing" the stalker to do something... as opposed to the stalker's fault, for stalking .
Except that Forrest's point is that they probably didn't know the spammer was a stalker. This is kind of relevant. If a random person walks up to you and asks if you've seen this person and shows you a picture, you'd probably help them out, completely unaware they're a serial killer. That doesn't make you a bad person. If Kickstarter does respond to this by maintaining their stance, then there's a huge problem. Until…
WTF. I'm sorry guys. If there is any chance your blog post may incite trolls or spammers please refrain from making that post.
This makes no sense. Better response would be to try and work with the person and figure out some kind of solution. Sure banning people who attract spam works but in the long run it will cause some serious karma fallout. This is customer service 101.
I imagine there are laws that this cyberstalker is breaking, and surely kickstarter can assist in providing the authorities with the relevant information to kickstart an investigation/tro/arrest?
I once thought I was his only target until his other victims began
contacting me. He was sending us child pornography and threatening to
kill us along with impersonating our dead relatives. We started a
support network and put all of our case numbers together to make this
a federal matter. What now? The hunt for my stalker continues yet has
been unsuccessful as of now. The FBI having bigger fish to fry. The
police say that he is “good at what he does.”I'd like to know what solution those that are critizing Kickstarter offer. After all, banning an IP is close to pointless.
You also can't post a comment if you don't have an account, so banning the account would be a reasonable stopgap measure; this step wasn't mentioned in the blog post. If they're flooding accounts, then ban the IP. If they start switching IPs, then you can start making excuses for Kickstarter.
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Except that Forrest's point is that they probably didn't know the spammer was a stalker. This is kind of relevant. If a random person walks up to you and asks if you've seen this person and shows you a picture, you'd probably help them out, completely unaware they're a serial killer. That doesn't make you a bad person. If Kickstarter does respond to this by maintaining their stance, then there's a huge problem. Until…
I don't think that changes anything? Again, replace the word "stalk" with "spam": it's the spammer's fault for spamming , not her fault for hypothetically "causing" the spammer to make the decision to spam her.
An open memo to Hacker News: Stories like this (e.g. the GitHub and AirBnB incidents) tend to draw out this ugly, mob-like attitude from Hacker News, and I'm sure none of us want to see it happen again. Please, everybody, remember to be civil and give everybody the benefit of the doubt.