It's heartwarming to see finally someone take Apple to court on this! So many small developers have no chance to do that.
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#202I don't know Chile, but this move by Apple is illegal in many countries and the developer might get a good money in damages. It doesn't matter what the platform T&Cs say, know your country's laws and you'll avoid unnecessary headaches. Now thinking about it, it might make sense for some developers to publish their apps in specific countries to mitigate this kind of risk...
What's the illegal part? Which country would this be illegal in?
The illegal part is money theft. As for which country it's illegal in: all of them.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was talked about by Phillip Shoemaker (head of App Store Review 2009-2016) in this talk[0], where some developers figured out that if they hired marketing firms to commit review fraud on a competitor’s app, their competitor would get terminated because there’s no clear way to actually attribute the fraud to the developer. I guess the App Store fraud prevention team hasn’t necessarily found a good solution yet. 0…
> I guess the App Store fraud prevention team hasn’t necessarily found a good solution yet. The most essential device of the century is owned by two companies. The ability for them to completely control software and business activities on top of something that is almost as essential as public transportation is appalling. The DOJ needs to remove the "app store" racket for essential computing devices. Software needs to…
Android removed the big technical measures that gave Google's Play Store a competitive advantage over alternatives, in no small part because of EU pressure. And while the Play Store is by far the biggest player in town, Amazon's Appstore, Huawei's AppGallery and F-Droid are all notable alternatives.
Meanwhile on iOS the best we seem to get is the EU Digital Markets Act setting some rules for fairness on the big marketplaces.
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#204Russian guy saying that he is in Chile in the first sentence? Absolutely nothing suspicious. https://companies.rbc.ru/id/1215600010141-obschestvo-s-ogran... It is even a Russian company. It was registered a bit before the war started and liquidated not so long ago.
The company is liquidated, which means he doesn't do business in Russia. Also, I love living in the world where doing business is suspicious because of my nationality.
Choose a better government, then. Preferably, a one without Soviet/death cult/imperialistic tendencies.
The nation will be judged by its government's actions, because the gov is supposed to be kept in check by the people.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I guess the App Store fraud prevention team hasn’t necessarily found a good solution yet. The most essential device of the century is owned by two companies. The ability for them to completely control software and business activities on top of something that is almost as essential as public transportation is appalling. The DOJ needs to remove the "app store" racket for essential computing devices. Software needs to…
> The most essential device of the century is owned by two companies. As long as people play along, yes it is indeed. If more people were installing a free mobile OS, and thus take back ownership of their hardware and digital lives, the story would be much different. It's the same story with PCs. If you actually want to control the hardware you own, install Linux. It's not as if the alternatives to corporate control…
This. And it's not like there's no choice. The only pain point, if you want to completely get rid of A/G, is push notifications and some banking apps.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was talked about by Phillip Shoemaker (head of App Store Review 2009-2016) in this talk[0], where some developers figured out that if they hired marketing firms to commit review fraud on a competitor’s app, their competitor would get terminated because there’s no clear way to actually attribute the fraud to the developer. I guess the App Store fraud prevention team hasn’t necessarily found a good solution yet. 0…
> I guess the App Store fraud prevention team hasn’t necessarily found a good solution yet. The most essential device of the century is owned by two companies. The ability for them to completely control software and business activities on top of something that is almost as essential as public transportation is appalling. The DOJ needs to remove the "app store" racket for essential computing devices. Software needs to…
As you mention two companies I can only assume the other is Google and android. Which I find odd as I have multiple other appstores and repositories on my phone and every other android device I have owned. My phones and tablets usually come with not just the Google Play Store, but also the manufacturers app store, and I install fdroid on all my android devices, and have in the past installed the Amazon app store on my phones back when Amazon and Google were having a spat over audible book sales and you breifly couldn't buy books on the Google hosted version of audible. So I don't see the problem. There are many third party app stores on the android half of the marker if you as a developer dont like the terms for using Google Play, then list you app on another storefront with more agreeable terms or your own webpage.
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#207Every time I read one of these stories, the first thought I have is: "We should be pushing to have PWA be more robust and be positioned as a first class citizen".
My thinking is that would remove the need for a singular approval process. Liberating all developers to build what they want.
Of course security is always a concern. PWA in sandboxes of some sort sounds like the best path forward.
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It's not in the interest of the DOJ to do so - 95% of people are technologically completely inept and it would expose them to fraud, malware and such at unprecedented scale
I don't see how this follows. Android phones can have alternate appstores, and yet we don't see widespread malware, fraud etc from that.
Have you heard of a little company called Epic?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanwhitwam/2018/08/25/epic-gam...
And then
https://www.komando.com/security-privacy/ratmilad-android-ma...
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Funny how a "super obvious" thing is out of your reach, though ... That is not money laundering. Come on guys, read a bit, don't just parrot back what you see on Netflix.
There are "companies" in developing countries that you can send money to who, if you send a large enough amount, will create and publish an app on the app store in your name and use a portion of the funds you give them to purchase stolen credit cards and/or apple store gift cards (usually obtained by some form of credit card fraud), and make purchases of that app, thus washing your original dirty funds. This is money…
Nope, that's still not money laundering.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not in the interest of the DOJ to do so - 95% of people are technologically completely inept and it would expose them to fraud, malware and such at unprecedented scale
I don't see how this follows. Android phones can have alternate appstores, and yet we don't see widespread malware, fraud etc from that.
Technically illiterate people don't use open OS's so there's no reason for attackers to target those platforms. Also, the number of users is so small that it's not worth an attacker's time.