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The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Re: The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Something is missing.... Which players have the better tensor chips? 1. Apple 2. Google 3. NVIDIA 4. SAMA if his side chip startup gets going 5. Microsoft As the bet would not be SoC tensor specific but overall the full stack of it..

It's definitely NVIDIA, as almost everyone's software stack is deeply based on CUDA, and AWS as the go-to provider of almost everyone's choice.

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

Didn't Anthony Levandowski already try that? Thing is, it doesn't work. The primary purpose of religion is to tackle questions that are metaphysical in nature; to provide an explanation for the deep mysteries of life. To most believers, God isn't a comic book character that's worshipped solely because he is powerful -- He is worshipped as the first mover, the alpha and omega, beyond all constraint -- and the mere fac…

> The primary purpose of religion is to tackle questions that are metaphysical in nature

Others say it's primary purpose is making large groups of people collaborate instead of fight each other.

Re: The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

Man, that has been a dream since I was a kid: to see humanity create better gods. It would be really cool to see these machine gods evolve over time too, and scripture and morality along with them. A version controlled religion for future historians (AI, humans, or otherwise) to study!

If I understand the prophetic visions of Warhammer 40k correctly, what you forsee shall be known as the Dark age of Technology, its study shall be banned as heresy and only by the grace of the God Emperor of Mankind will humanity survive it.

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

Didn't Anthony Levandowski already try that? Thing is, it doesn't work. The primary purpose of religion is to tackle questions that are metaphysical in nature; to provide an explanation for the deep mysteries of life. To most believers, God isn't a comic book character that's worshipped solely because he is powerful -- He is worshipped as the first mover, the alpha and omega, beyond all constraint -- and the mere fac…

What if the AI was set to be the bridge between God and humanity? As a higher minded being, the AI certainly could connect with God in ways we couldn't and his Word would make scripture. At least that's how I'd frame it...

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

Man, that has been a dream since I was a kid: to see humanity create better gods. It would be really cool to see these machine gods evolve over time too, and scripture and morality along with them. A version controlled religion for future historians (AI, humans, or otherwise) to study!

Well we do have almost technological gods in fiction in the Culture series:

"I am not an animal brain, I am not even some attempt to produce an AI through software running on a computer. I am a Culture Mind. We are close to gods, and on the far side."

Ending up with something even remotely like a Culture Mind would be pretty awesome to me...

#FullyAutomatedLuxuryGaySpaceCommunism

Re: The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, that has been a dream since I was a kid: to see humanity create better gods. It would be really cool to see these machine gods evolve over time too, and scripture and morality along with them. A version controlled religion for future historians (AI, humans, or otherwise) to study!

I’m not sure the gods human being have made so far have done anything apart from persuade people to kill each other over scratchy bits of land. Whether feeling-less AGI will be better for us primates is very uncertain!

We don't know what will happen with AGI, but we can pretty easily guess what will happen without it. I'd take that risk any day!

Re: The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

Even worse if the beliefs are true!

Ian Banks' Culture series takes this idea to the extreme, feels like it's getting more relevant by the day in the past week.

Re: The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

Didn't Anthony Levandowski already try that? Thing is, it doesn't work. The primary purpose of religion is to tackle questions that are metaphysical in nature; to provide an explanation for the deep mysteries of life. To most believers, God isn't a comic book character that's worshipped solely because he is powerful -- He is worshipped as the first mover, the alpha and omega, beyond all constraint -- and the mere fac…

Ritual is the primary purpose of religion. There are several very successful secular cults. US civic religion is one of the first to come to mind.

Re: The Fallout from the Weirdness at OpenAI

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Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

> Why do I get a feeling we are going to see an explosion of secular cults that have weird beliefs in AI and worship AGI?

A tendency that would take humanity a few hundred years backward, that's such a shame.

Laziness will prevail when immediacy and cargo cult tribalism are the most potent currency.

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