Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

Post by whalesalad » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 5:16 AM UTC

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I blame Windows Defender (anti-virus). It's the first thing I disable whenever I want to do some serious disk I/O. Also Windows still uses NTFS which dates back to 2000. For compatibility reasons, fair enough. But surely NTFS wasn't designed with SSDs in mind, let alone NVMEs.

NTFS has had several updates over the years, and supports trim just fine. Of course, that doesn't make it comparable to ext4 or zfs or whatever, but I wouldn't expect it to be the worst bottleneck in the system.

Post by whalesalad » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 5:18 AM UTC

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I have a Zen 2 Threadripper box that I dual boot (it's a workstation for coding that I sometimes play games on), and I can confirm. I don't know what the exact technical reason is or why nobody in Redmond is embarrassed. But anything relating to the filesystem is simply dog-slow on Windows, and the more high-end your system is, the more this becomes the major bottleneck.

IIRC there is a filesystem filter on windows where various apps like antivirus hook themselves, which was why filesystem access under WSL1 actually faster than windows.

Post by jmnicolas » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 8:58 AM UTC

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Why not a stable distro with KDE for Windows convert? KDE is the closest thing that looks like Windows.

Linux Mint also looks pretty close to Windows, and they seem to explicitly try to accommodate Windows-experienced folks, with a lot of preinstalled tools and a similar UX. I run NixOS with KDE on both my desktop and laptop, and whilst it is closer to Windows than Gnome is, its not as close as Mint, or rather, Cinnamon. KDE looks close to Windows with the default UI, but the UX differences are more noticeable. Another…

Post by planede » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 10:04 AM UTC

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Apart from Nvidia, this feels like a non-issue for me nowadays.

People want to game, and a lot of gamers want Nvidia. The driver may or may not work, but if it has a reputation for maybe not working, people will decide against it. It also possible that people who find out the Nvidia cards are unreliable on Linux are making decisions over other systems where this shouldn't be such a big deal.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 11:22 AM UTC

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> Perhaps I should have chosen another flavor? That'll ignite a holy war. The trick with linux isn't to learn the flavour, it's to learn linux - once you get an overview of how all the bits work then switching distro is (much) more straightforward. Ubuntu is an excellent first choice because it's one of the major distro's so you'll be able to google stuff more easily. My personal recommendation would be Fedora (and i…

Where do I learn modern desktop Linux? I am using it on servers since 1993 and used for desktop 2004-2017 (and was very unhappy with it) so my desktop knowledge is severely outdated.