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The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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I've had a Kindle of some sort since 2011 and not once have I read a book through Amazon... not due to avoidance on my part, just haven't needed to! My first device was an "ad supported" Kindle 4 but since I never signed in to Amazon with it, I never saw an ad. I read library books on a Kobo Touch and use the Kindle 10th gen for DRM-free, purchased e-books. Calibre is amazing. I've got fond memories of using Plucker…

I, too, have had a Kindle since 2011 and never read a book through Amazon. Every time I purchased a new Kindle, I put it in airplane mode the moment I took it out of the box. Then, I just loaded books onto it over USB. In fact, I have never paid for an ebook at all – already in 2011 the ebook filesharing community was well developed, and today LibGen and Anna’s Archive have 95% of everything I want to read in English…

> have never paid for an ebook at all

Not snarking, genuine question: how do you expect the authors to make a living creating and writing the content you enjoy reading if you don’t pay for it? Do you only read content that authors publish for free?

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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It should be illegal to say "buy" when you don't get full rights. Call it "rent" or "lease", but "buy" should only mean "buy".

You don't get 'full rights' when you buy a regular book, car or house.

There's a distinct difference of buying DRM-free ebook and renting DRM ebook and thinking you can use it on any device that you own - and "owning" here is still a central thesis.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Kindles now read Epubs just fine. Mobi is a deprecated format. You have to email the Epub to your Kindle account, but that's the only bit of friction from that side.

From the other side, DeDRM(doDRM) and the KFX input plugin can remove the latest Kindle DRM, and Calibre can convert the AZW folders to an Epub.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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I’m probably an outlier in tech circles but I really like the kindle experience, it’s convenient, the store has all the books I could ever want to read, the price is reasonable and since I never reread books I really don’t mind that I don’t own them forever. I’ve probably bought 200 books from Amazon since I got my kindle back in 2010. If I had to go through the hassles of stripping drm and side loading the books I’d read less as I just don’t plan that well.

Arguably since physical books do degrade over decades you also don’t own those forever but since the time frame is so long it’s a moot point.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, have had a Kindle since 2011 and never read a book through Amazon. Every time I purchased a new Kindle, I put it in airplane mode the moment I took it out of the box. Then, I just loaded books onto it over USB. In fact, I have never paid for an ebook at all – already in 2011 the ebook filesharing community was well developed, and today LibGen and Anna’s Archive have 95% of everything I want to read in English…

> have never paid for an ebook at all Not snarking, genuine question: how do you expect the authors to make a living creating and writing the content you enjoy reading if you don’t pay for it? Do you only read content that authors publish for free?

Much of what I read – on linguistics, art cinema, or art music – is published by academic presses. No matter how much a scholarly publication might interest the general public, those books are usually priced at a level where only university libraries, and occasionally hired faculty, are expected to actually buy them. The retail price of what I have read in the last month alone already goes into the thousands of euro.

For English-language works of fiction that I will read a single time, I have no qualms about downloading them. People in English-speaking countries could get these for free through their public library, whether there on the shelves or through ILL. What, I have to pay for them just because where I am, I have no access to such libraries?

I still buy a lot of physical books, but I tend to purchase only what I know I will read multiple times over the years. That means, in the first place, poetry. And since poetry is a genre where page layout really matters, and ebooks still struggle with complex and large-format layout, it is especially nice to have the physical book.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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I’m probably an outlier in tech circles but I really like the kindle experience, it’s convenient, the store has all the books I could ever want to read, the price is reasonable and since I never reread books I really don’t mind that I don’t own them forever. I’ve probably bought 200 books from Amazon since I got my kindle back in 2010. If I had to go through the hassles of stripping drm and side loading the books I’d…

> physical books do degrade over decades you also don’t own those forever

There's this interesting machine called a scanner that solves that problem.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, have had a Kindle since 2011 and never read a book through Amazon. Every time I purchased a new Kindle, I put it in airplane mode the moment I took it out of the box. Then, I just loaded books onto it over USB. In fact, I have never paid for an ebook at all – already in 2011 the ebook filesharing community was well developed, and today LibGen and Anna’s Archive have 95% of everything I want to read in English…

> have never paid for an ebook at all Not snarking, genuine question: how do you expect the authors to make a living creating and writing the content you enjoy reading if you don’t pay for it? Do you only read content that authors publish for free?

As someone who left the book industry because it was so easy and accepted to steal books, as if they just grow on trees.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Kindles now read Epubs just fine. Mobi is a deprecated format. You have to email the Epub to your Kindle account, but that's the only bit of friction from that side. From the other side, DeDRM(doDRM) and the KFX input plugin can remove the latest Kindle DRM, and Calibre can convert the AZW folders to an Epub.

> You have to email the Epub to your Kindle account,

That's horrible just to think about it.

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