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Re: Ask HN: Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?

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Phind.com’s custom model (which is I think publicly available) is pretty good for coding tasks. It helps enormously that it uses RAG with web search. I use it all the time and also GPT-4, and GPT-4 is better, but Phind’s model is close and also very fast. I have nothing to do with the company, and am just a random (free) user.

Re: Ask HN: Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?

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Not really, no. The whole reason the fiasco occurred in the first place is because it's in a league of its own. Bard and Claude are likely to be suggested, but the competency gap is palpable. I've tried using them and failed to find them sufficiently compelling to adopt into my workflow for programming tasks.

That's a bit of a generalization from one task though, no?

E.g. bard is hooked into the Google services like Maps and YouTube, so if you want to plan a trip or search contents of a video, it is likely better.

Re: Ask HN: Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft Copilot / Bing runs on GPT-4. For free.

Bing's RLHF is a mess compared to ChatGPT. Hopefully they can improve it, but the instruction following leaves something to be desired.

How did you come to the conclusion that it was RLHF?

Re: Ask HN: Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?

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to second this, I really want an LLM that can call a REST API like ChatGPT plugins can. What is out there? for this use case, it might be okay if it’s not as intelligent as GPT 4

I have used llama2 to do something like this. I build a prompt with a set of opcodes, the llm responds with an opcode and an external system handles the call. Not sure if that is what you are looking for however

that sounds close, but how much tooling do you have to hand-roll for it?

Re: Ask HN: Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?

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Not really, no. The whole reason the fiasco occurred in the first place is because it's in a league of its own. Bard and Claude are likely to be suggested, but the competency gap is palpable. I've tried using them and failed to find them sufficiently compelling to adopt into my workflow for programming tasks.

That's a bit of a generalization from one task though, no? E.g. bard is hooked into the Google services like Maps and YouTube, so if you want to plan a trip or search contents of a video, it is likely better.

Yeah, it is, I agree. I don't have a workflow where I bounce between LLMs trying to get the best results. I use LLMs when I think I'll get results faster than if I just Google for the answers. After a few letdowns with the competition I stopped defaulting to thinking about how they could help me.

Do you use a variety of LLMs in your daily life? Can you share some queries you'd issue to Bard for Maps/YouTube integrations that ChatGPT fails at? I'd be very interested in some concrete examples. Specifically in a post-plugin world where ChatGPT uses Bing to interface with the web.

I don't want to become blind to the advancements in competitor's tooling.

Re: Ask HN: Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?

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Not really, no. The whole reason the fiasco occurred in the first place is because it's in a league of its own. Bard and Claude are likely to be suggested, but the competency gap is palpable. I've tried using them and failed to find them sufficiently compelling to adopt into my workflow for programming tasks.

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