So in your opinion being for profit is bad?
Interesting.
Specifically on OAI there were several threads here before discussing how much money it was loosing and if they might not make it.
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#22For coding and "reasoning" tasks, there isn't any that can match GPT4. You can try Bing but it is slightly nerfed in my experience.
For general writing, simple discussion, basic knowledge etc, Claude is pretty good. In fact, I find Claude's writing a lot better than GPT. It sounds more "normal".
For vision and API calls and developing apps and such, unfortunately, GPT is king and anything else pales in comparison.
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#23to second this, I really want an LLM that can call a REST API like ChatGPT plugins can. What is out there? for this use case, it might be okay if it’s not as intelligent as GPT 4
I have used llama2 to do something like this. I build a prompt with a set of opcodes, the llm responds with an opcode and an external system handles the call. Not sure if that is what you are looking for however
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft Copilot / Bing runs on GPT-4. For free.
Bing's RLHF is a mess compared to ChatGPT. Hopefully they can improve it, but the instruction following leaves something to be desired.
Not true. It’s the same model (AFAIK). Maybe the system prompt is different. But generally you can get the same performance and behaviour from it.
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#25to second this, I really want an LLM that can call a REST API like ChatGPT plugins can. What is out there? for this use case, it might be okay if it’s not as intelligent as GPT 4
> to second this, I really want an LLM that can call a REST API like ChatGPT plugins can. What is out there?
That's not really a model feature but a prompting + toolchain feature. Conceptually, there's no reason you couldn't build a parser for the chatGPT plugin description json, the descriptions of existing plugins, and prompt any model wrapped in a tool-using framework to call them. That's all outside of the model itself.
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#27What happened in the last few days that changed your opinion of how OpenAI was operating? Surely you didn’t previously think the board of the non-profit had, until that point, constrained in any way the development of ChatGPT…
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bing's RLHF is a mess compared to ChatGPT. Hopefully they can improve it, but the instruction following leaves something to be desired.
Not true. It’s the same model (AFAIK). Maybe the system prompt is different. But generally you can get the same performance and behaviour from it.
Me to Bing in Edge: "Copilot, are you running on GPT-4?"
Bing: "Hello! This is Bing. I’m sorry, but I’m not Copilot. I’m a chat mode of Microsoft Bing. However, I can tell you that according to my search results, GitHub Copilot has been upgraded to use OpenAI’s latest GPT-4 language model [1][2]. It is now more powerful and offers more accurate code suggestions and explanations[1]."
(Footnotes provided by the AI.)
[1]: https://github.blog/2023-11-08-universe-2023-copilot-transfo...
[2]: https://www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-uses-gpt-4-to-turn-gith...
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I asked Perplexity which LLM powers it and it said OpenAI GPT-3.
That doesn’t mean anything. I have some fine tunes of Llama that will claim they are GPT-3 all day long. Models have no concept of an identity.
Eh, disagree. It means a lot. It's either hallucinating on a trivial use case or it's correct and not useful to OP. One of the seed prompts for GPT establishes what it is. I would find it odd if other, commercialized LLMs don't do the same since any sane PM would say "Wow, this hallucination is absolutely terrible for marketing ourselves. Fix it."
That said, https://blog.perplexity.ai/technical-faq/what-models-does-co... -- it's powered by OpenAI's GPT.
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#30Claude is useful. Bard seems good enough but for more serious usages you probably want to wait for Gemini.