or use same paywalls filter list for adblockers:
https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-clean-filter...
Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
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Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
There just needs to be a better way to pay. I’d pay a dollar to read something interesting. I will not give them my CC though and sign up for something that’s a challenge to cancel. I know this has been said a million times before, but it is what it is. And I do 100% agree with you. One other thought I’ve had is that the comments on some of these news sites is worth the subscription cost on its own. For example the f…
That's very doubtable. The people who won't pay for a one month subscription won't pay a dollar to read an article either. Then they'll say "Oh, it's such a hassle to provide my payment information for something that is just a dollar". These paywalled magazines know the customers better than the customers themselves.
The reason I mostly don't subscribe is I follow lots of aggregator links to lots of different publications, and I don't read enough at any one publication to subscribe. Micropayments would solve that for me, if they were reasonable (not a dollar per article) and just a simple button click, and I trusted that the article wasn't clickbait.
Another business model would be some kind of group subscription to all the major papers and magazines. They could keep track of whose articles I read and distribute my payment among themselves.
Instead they're stuck in an ancient business model where you subscribe to a newspaper and a couple magazines and just read those, because it's all printed on paper and distributed in batches.
In the absence of micropayments or group subscriptions, I pay for one major publication, bypass paywalls on the rest, and feel like I've done my bit. If everyone did the same, then with a reasonably random distribution the publications would all be getting paid.
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have an idea: how about advertisers pay for ads placed on the websites of news outlets that have quality reporting? And furthermore, how about those ads dont pop up unexpectedly, don't auto play movies, dont have gruesome, edgy, salacious, or insulting graphics or images? Just make an offer and if I'm interested, I'll click. Any time I hear the debate about paywall vs content provider, they've never disambiguated w…
There are ad networks that serve simple, lightweight ads, and yet when people install an ad blocker their revealed preference equates to refusing all ads, even when they do not have any of the negative characteristics you mention.
so when grandma's windows box is rooted by a 0-day 'sploit from javascript served by visiting Gardening Today's website (grandma lives in Phoenix, GT is based in (let's say) New Hampshire), she can file a small claims case against Gardening Today to get her computer repaired? $125 initial estimate fee, $200 in "labor" to scan and remove the malware, treble damages, so $1000 sounds about right. I'm sure "quality journalists" would be happy to right these wrongs, wouldn't they?
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quality reporting isn't free (I know, I sound like a paywall myself, but it's true). It involves people traveling to warzones or disaster zones to get a view on the ground, or spending weeks chasing down and investigating leads, or getting interviews with important people or leaks from insiders. In a good news organisation, that is what the paywall is paying for (no doubt there are many bad news organisations that tr…
> Quality reporting isn't free Quality reporting isn't common either. I check a few news sites now and again to find out what's going on in the world and the signal to noise ratio is abysmal. It's gotten to the point where, when something really major happens I often find out about it from other people first. Then I might hit the news sites to get more information but that information is usually pretty sparse. I do a…
Micropayments would improve the incentives. Click a button, pay a penny, see the article. You'd only be willing to do that if you trust the publication to provide quality articles.
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are ad networks that serve simple, lightweight ads, and yet when people install an ad blocker their revealed preference equates to refusing all ads, even when they do not have any of the negative characteristics you mention.
A VERY high percentage of ads are obnoxious. And a high enough percentage of ads are outright dangerous. Given that, using an ad blocker to keep yourself safe is a pretty sane choice. Even for sites that _try_ to have safe, sane ads; they're all using an ad network, and _that_ could get compromised, resulting in a dangerous payload (it's certain not an unknown occurrence). It's very hard to justify showing any ads.
There was a great HN post a few years back about "chum", the taboola-style garbage ads and a breakdown on each one's tactic. For instance, one was talking about why they show close-ups that you can't quite tell what they are, or show a picture of swiss cheese so that the holes trigger our instinct of Trycolophobia (I think thats what it was called). It's not honest communication when they resort to those scummy tactics to steal our attention.
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's very doubtable. The people who won't pay for a one month subscription won't pay a dollar to read an article either. Then they'll say "Oh, it's such a hassle to provide my payment information for something that is just a dollar". These paywalled magazines know the customers better than the customers themselves.
The reason I mostly don't subscribe is I follow lots of aggregator links to lots of different publications, and I don't read enough at any one publication to subscribe. Micropayments would solve that for me, if they were reasonable (not a dollar per article) and just a simple button click, and I trusted that the article wasn't clickbait. Another business model would be some kind of group subscription to all the major…
> Another business model would be some kind of group subscription to all the major papers and magazines. They could keep track of whose articles I read and distribute my payment among themselves.
I believe this is the future. Not only for traditional newspapers and magazines, but for all written content of quality online. Massive syndicates of blogs and websites under common subscription umbrellas. Like video streaming is today. Let's end this online nightmare of ads, scams, SEO, freeloading and clickbait!
There's PressReader already today, but at $30 per month, it is too pricey for most. Readly is a whole lot cheaper for a smaller catalogue, but suffers from having an extremely bad user experience. I think most people would be interested in mainly news and independent blogs. What sane individual reads stuff like Rolling Stone or Vogue?
> In the absence of micropayments or group subscriptions, I pay for one major publication, bypass paywalls on the rest, and feel like I've done my bit. If everyone did the same, then with a reasonably random distribution the publications would all be getting paid.
Agreed.
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is so much of the content just corporate or police press releases without any further research? How are so many publications willing to provide a pseudo-authorative platform for the worst people on the planet in their op eds? Without even bringing up that I'd be paying for the privilege of having ads jammed in every three inches of scroll. I'm not paying a damn thing to help them spread bullshit as if it were new…
> How are so many publications willing to provide a pseudo-authorative platform for the worst people on the planet in their op eds? That's because newspapers should be platforms of free speech. If an editor refuses to take in an op-ed from important people, no mater how horrible, hen he is no fi for he job. If newspaper readers don't want to read the opinion of their enemies, they're just dumb.
They should be platforms of journalism. There are plenty of other venues available for "important people" to share their views. A news outlet lending credibility by uncritically publishing an opinion is not journalism.
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How are so many publications willing to provide a pseudo-authorative platform for the worst people on the planet in their op eds? That's because newspapers should be platforms of free speech. If an editor refuses to take in an op-ed from important people, no mater how horrible, hen he is no fi for he job. If newspaper readers don't want to read the opinion of their enemies, they're just dumb.
They should be platforms of journalism. There are plenty of other venues available for "important people" to share their views. A news outlet lending credibility by uncritically publishing an opinion is not journalism.
A news outlets lends credibility by publishing an op-ed as much as Samsung lends credibility to what you're saying when you're on the phone with somebody. Newspapers have always been and should be part of the public sphere. Their mission should be to investigate, interview, report, publish, and let the reader form her own opinion. Not to shove their own opinions down the reader's throat. A serious newspaper will interview both sides of any conflict, and print their viewpoints uncensored.
Do you want to read the an op-ed written by Putin or Biden in the New York Times or do you want them to write "That horrible man doesn't have opinions that align with ours, so we won't print him so that our readers are protected from him"?
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have an idea: how about advertisers pay for ads placed on the websites of news outlets that have quality reporting? And furthermore, how about those ads dont pop up unexpectedly, don't auto play movies, dont have gruesome, edgy, salacious, or insulting graphics or images? Just make an offer and if I'm interested, I'll click. Any time I hear the debate about paywall vs content provider, they've never disambiguated w…
There are ad networks that serve simple, lightweight ads, and yet when people install an ad blocker their revealed preference equates to refusing all ads, even when they do not have any of the negative characteristics you mention.
I was there in the late 90s to early 2000s, when the ad wars created auto-launching pop-overs and pop-unders. Where closing an ad would spawn 10 more, and where hitting any site on the wrong day could initiate a blizzard of browser windows that would bring even the most powerful PC of the era to its knees such that your only possible solution would be a hard shutdown and restart, your current active and unsaved data in any other program be damned.
Sorry, but that particular well for revenue generation has been permanently poisoned for me. I will never suffer another online ad if I can possibly help it.
It sucks for any legitimate website looking to support its operations, but those horses have long since fled the barn.
Re: Bypass Paywalls Clean combines all soft paywall hacks into one neat package
#50Does anyone know what if anything is substantively different between the original bypass paywalls[1] and bypass paywalls clean? The implication, obviously, is that the original is unclean. [1] https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
Besides what the others said, the new clean one supports a whole host of additional websites, is updated more regularly, and generally works better. I think my biggest issue with the clean one is that it's not on any of the add-on/extension stores, and it's unclear why it was removed from the add-on/extension store.
You can use this filter list in uBO as a workaround for the extension being off the add-on/extension store.
https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-clean-filters/-/raw/main/bpc-paywall-filter.txt