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Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

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Post by zvrba »

PStamatiou wrote: post #38
zvrba wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your webpage layout sucks: in a Browser half a window wide (Opera 11.61, 64-bit Win7, 1680x1050 resolution), the text overflows past the right margin. When I scroll it horizontally, the blue block of text ("Paul Stamatiou") and the purple ad overlap the text. This (1st line of text) is where I stopped reading.

Željko, I think you could have worded that a bit more politely. Try readability, RSS or perhaps increasing the size of your browser window.

I'm impolite because I'm annoyed and I'm annoyed because browsers by default automatically adapt text layout to the window size, and you have somehow purposefully broken this mechanism. Victory of design over functionality.

What's more, YOU are now asking ME to inconvenience myself in order to fix YOUR bug. Sorry, no-go.

[Your page is not the only one offender, but you're the first author I have the opportunity to tell this to directly.]

Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

#42

Post by PStamatiou »

zvrba wrote: post #41
PStamatiou wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Željko, I think you could have worded that a bit more politely. Try readability, RSS or perhaps increasing the size of your browser window.

I'm impolite because I'm annoyed and I'm annoyed because browsers by default automatically adapt text layout to the window size, and you have somehow purposefully broken this mechanism. Victory of design over functionality. What's more, YOU are now asking ME to inconvenience myself in order to fix YOUR bug. Sorry, no-go. [Your page is not the only one offender, but you're the first author I have the opportunity to te…

"browsers by default automatically adapt text layout to the window size"

That is not a browser default. That is fluid vs fixed. Check out smashing magazine for some articles on how that works in HTML/CSS if you're curious.

"fix YOUR bug"

Me not wanting to support people with 800px wide browsers is not a bug. It's a decision. Much like major companies no longer want to support IE users.

Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

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Post by aamar »

jedberg wrote: post #36
aamar wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A ~10 year record could mean ~30 chances to vote, but hardly anyone votes in a majority of those elections. I, too, am curious how they have an average of 10 votes per voter.

I've been legal to vote for 17 years, and I've voted in every election since I became legal. That's about twice a year for 17 years (odd years sometimes only have one), so I probably have around 30ish voting records.

A 1.7 ratio is totally believable. I've worked with voter databases that suggested higher average ratios, but I'm not sure if that's because the voters have all those options to vote or because it's an artifact of the data model.

Example: http://www.smartvoter.org/2012/01/17/ca/la/

This shows 14 election days happening in 2011 for LA County. But many of those are limited to a particular city or congressional district. I think when the data gets recorded at the state level, some expediencies cause the "available election" count to be distorted.

Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

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Post by alabut »

PStamatiou wrote: post #2

Author here -- Please let me know what you think of this format. If it works, I'd love to do more of these immersive-get-to-know-a-startup articles with other startups. Is it too long? Does the Q&A structure work here? My inspiration for this was The Setup ( http://usesthis.com/ ), but in my own style -- focused on the startup and in my natural super-long-form.

Well done Stammy, this was excellent. It's like the way I wanted Founders At Work to never end and keep reading more about company's from the inside, rather than the "success theater" at presentations and talks.

It's so good I might just steal the format :)

Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

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Post by avadhanula »

PStamatiou wrote: post #2

Author here -- Please let me know what you think of this format. If it works, I'd love to do more of these immersive-get-to-know-a-startup articles with other startups. Is it too long? Does the Q&A structure work here? My inspiration for this was The Setup ( http://usesthis.com/ ), but in my own style -- focused on the startup and in my natural super-long-form.

Very interesting post. One thing that would be interesting to know about startups which gets talked about very little is the mundane things about running such a shop.

- None of the startups have HR. How do they deal with Health and other benefits? - Legal etc.

Love the sawhorse desks.

Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

#46

Post by zvrba »

PStamatiou wrote: post #42
zvrba wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm impolite because I'm annoyed and I'm annoyed because browsers by default automatically adapt text layout to the window size, and you have somehow purposefully broken this mechanism. Victory of design over functionality. What's more, YOU are now asking ME to inconvenience myself in order to fix YOUR bug. Sorry, no-go. [Your page is not the only one offender, but you're the first author I have the opportunity to te…

"browsers by default automatically adapt text layout to the window size" That is not a browser default. That is fluid vs fixed. Check out smashing magazine for some articles on how that works in HTML/CSS if you're curious. "fix YOUR bug" Me not wanting to support people with 800px wide browsers is not a bug. It's a decision. Much like major companies no longer want to support IE users.

> That is not a browser default. That is fluid vs fixed.

Nitpicking. Fluid is default unless you change it. Fixed layouts belong to fixed media, such as PDFs formatted for a particular paper size. [with them I have no problem, and, incidentally. I have yet to run into a PDF that is not viewable in a window 800 pixels wide.]

> Me not wanting to support people with 800px wide browsers is not a bug.

In the same way that Excel 2003 having 64k row limit is not a "bug", but it's still unusable if you have a larger dataset. (From what I've seen on the net, newer versions support up to 1M rows; but the fundamental problem - arbitrary limitation - is still there.)

I really wonder how you would have replied had I written that I tried to read it on my phone or a tablet.

Re: Inside Votizen - Tech, Design, Culture

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Post by PStamatiou »

zvrba wrote: post #46
PStamatiou wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"browsers by default automatically adapt text layout to the window size" That is not a browser default. That is fluid vs fixed. Check out smashing magazine for some articles on how that works in HTML/CSS if you're curious. "fix YOUR bug" Me not wanting to support people with 800px wide browsers is not a bug. It's a decision. Much like major companies no longer want to support IE users.

> That is not a browser default. That is fluid vs fixed. Nitpicking. Fluid is default unless you change it. Fixed layouts belong to fixed media, such as PDFs formatted for a particular paper size. [with them I have no problem, and, incidentally. I have yet to run into a PDF that is not viewable in a window 800 pixels wide.] > Me not wanting to support people with 800px wide browsers is not a bug. In the same way that…

> I really wonder how you would have replied had I written that I tried to read it on my phone or a tablet.

I use media-queries. It looks different on iPhone for example

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