Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#2Not surprised though, with AMD being able to patch the Linux kernel and scheduler to its liking in order to squeeze out the maximum performance for it's architecture, versus depending on Microsoft to have the good will to figure it out on their own dime.
I'd be curious if the businesses buying these $20k+, 96-core, HEDT workstations actually do run Windows on them in order for this to be that big of a problem for Microsoft worth addressing, or if it's Linux all the way anyway for them so Windows isn't even on the radar.
Anyone here in the know?
Also, obligatory: "But can it run Crysis?" (in software render)
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#3Back in the day I used Linux for rendering my Blender animations because my tests had shown it was 10% faster than the same machine running Windows 10. With render times of more than 8 days this quickly paid off.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#4Not surprised though, with AMD being able to patch the Linux kernel and scheduler to its liking in order to squeeze out the maximum performance for it's architecture, versus depending on Microsoft to have the good will to figure it out on their own dime. I'd be curious if the businesses buying these $20k+, 96-core, HEDT workstations actually do run Windows on them in order for this to be that big of a problem for Mic…
The portion running a hypervisor would also be interesting to know. That’s one hell of a processor.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#5Not surprised though, with AMD being able to patch the Linux kernel and scheduler to its liking in order to squeeze out the maximum performance for it's architecture, versus depending on Microsoft to have the good will to figure it out on their own dime. I'd be curious if the businesses buying these $20k+, 96-core, HEDT workstations actually do run Windows on them in order for this to be that big of a problem for Mic…
One of the major markets for these would be visual art studios. They aren't generally Linux shops.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#6Not surprised though, with AMD being able to patch the Linux kernel and scheduler to its liking in order to squeeze out the maximum performance for it's architecture, versus depending on Microsoft to have the good will to figure it out on their own dime. I'd be curious if the businesses buying these $20k+, 96-core, HEDT workstations actually do run Windows on them in order for this to be that big of a problem for Mic…
One of the major markets for these would be visual art studios. They aren't generally Linux shops.
Funny you mention this because a lot of big visual arts studios use Mac for the artwork in the Adobe ecosystem, and heavily invested in Linux for the 3D rendering pipelines as they moved away from SGI/BSD with Windows almost nowhere on the radar.
I'd estimate the number of big-name shops running Windows is a minority with only smaller indie studios like Corridor Digital being all-in on Windows because it's a jack of all trades can-run-anything OS, and managing that one ecosystem without sys-admins and an internal IT department is a lot cheaper easier for small businesses of amateur-professionals.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#7Win11 its such a dumpster fire they had to stop selling Win10 licenses to force people to upgrade.
Add to that porting copilot to Win10 because there aren't enough Win11 users around.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#8performance means nothing if the software you require doesn't run on it
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#9Win11 its such a dumpster fire they had to stop selling Win10 licenses to force people to upgrade. Add to that porting copilot to Win10 because there aren't enough Win11 users around.
We’ve heard this for every version of Windows for the past twenty years or more.
When XP was new, there were people refusing to upgrade from Win2000 to “Fischer-Price Windows”.
Well, all versions except Vista — everybody seemed happy to upgrade to Windows 7. (Of course the lesson Microsoft drew from that smooth upgrade was to blow up everything for the next version. “They want tablet interactions, they just don’t know it!”)
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the major markets for these would be visual art studios. They aren't generally Linux shops.
Funny you mention this because a lot of big visual arts studios use Mac for the artwork in the Adobe ecosystem, and heavily invested in Linux for the 3D rendering pipelines as they moved away from SGI/BSD with Windows almost nowhere on the radar. I'd estimate the number of big-name shops running Windows is a minority with only smaller indie studios like Corridor Digital being all-in on Windows because it's a jack of…
"a lot" is nowhere near "all"