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In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by instagib »

Dr_Birdbrain wrote: post #33
gardnr wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a high powered blender. I try to get the fiber and the probiotics at the same time. Fruits and vegetables have probiotics inside the flesh, not just on the skin. The science is less clear on supplements. [1] The night before I soak: * chia seeds (1 tsp) * psyllium husks (1 tsp) * quick oats (1 tsp) * almonds 17g In the morning I add in: * a frozen banana * kefir / fermented yogurt drink (1/2 cup) * frozen berr…

How much creatine, if I may ask?

There’s been some studies for 20g per day to help with chronic migraine. (0)

40g/220lbs, 0.4g/kg. Prevention of traumatic headache, dizziness and fatigue with creatine administration. (1)

Similarly, a review of 6 studies found that doses of 5–20 gram of the compound may improve short-term memory and intelligence in healthy people. (2)

0. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/03331024209310...

1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583396/

2. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29704637/

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by agumonkey »

sethjgore wrote: post #49
agumonkey wrote: post #47

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There's also a strange satisfaction when skipping one or two meals. Even though you feel craving food for a little while, there's a feeling of being light, lean and sharp, even mentally.

That is for certain! Some of my best days are often just one large early dinner, and nothing all day except lot of fluids and sleeping on six or seven hours. There's something synergetic about not sleeping way too much and not eating that awakens the inner "animal" and keeps the mind alert.

I think so. "Alert" is probably the proper idea, when you're hungry but cannot eat, your brain will seek satisfaction elsewhere, and all this mental energy can be channeled into another activity (a bit like how people get very very active for a few days when they stop smoking cigarettes)

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by bear141 »

agumonkey wrote: post #52
sethjgore wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is for certain! Some of my best days are often just one large early dinner, and nothing all day except lot of fluids and sleeping on six or seven hours. There's something synergetic about not sleeping way too much and not eating that awakens the inner "animal" and keeps the mind alert.

I think so. "Alert" is probably the proper idea, when you're hungry but cannot eat, your brain will seek satisfaction elsewhere, and all this mental energy can be channeled into another activity (a bit like how people get very very active for a few days when they stop smoking cigarettes)

I have a theory that our natural state is “hungry”. We haven’t evolved past a time where getting enough food to be “full” would be a pretty rare occurrence. Everyone’s obsession with being perfectly comfortable at all times is why such an incredible amount of people die of obesity and its comorbitities every year in America.

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by gumby »

gardnr wrote: post #30
pabloarteel wrote: post #25

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what kind of probiotic foods have you successfully included in your daily life?

I have a high powered blender. I try to get the fiber and the probiotics at the same time. Fruits and vegetables have probiotics inside the flesh, not just on the skin. The science is less clear on supplements. [1] The night before I soak: * chia seeds (1 tsp) * psyllium husks (1 tsp) * quick oats (1 tsp) * almonds 17g In the morning I add in: * a frozen banana * kefir / fermented yogurt drink (1/2 cup) * frozen berr…

What’s the point of eating collagen when you’re already eating protein powder? Why do you think your gut would process it differently from any other protein?

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by gardnr »

Dr_Birdbrain wrote: post #33
gardnr wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a high powered blender. I try to get the fiber and the probiotics at the same time. Fruits and vegetables have probiotics inside the flesh, not just on the skin. The science is less clear on supplements. [1] The night before I soak: * chia seeds (1 tsp) * psyllium husks (1 tsp) * quick oats (1 tsp) * almonds 17g In the morning I add in: * a frozen banana * kefir / fermented yogurt drink (1/2 cup) * frozen berr…

How much creatine, if I may ask?

Somewhere between 3-5 grams.

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by gardnr »

verall wrote: post #35
gardnr wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a high powered blender. I try to get the fiber and the probiotics at the same time. Fruits and vegetables have probiotics inside the flesh, not just on the skin. The science is less clear on supplements. [1] The night before I soak: * chia seeds (1 tsp) * psyllium husks (1 tsp) * quick oats (1 tsp) * almonds 17g In the morning I add in: * a frozen banana * kefir / fermented yogurt drink (1/2 cup) * frozen berr…

Does it taste good?

Yeah, the almonds, cinnamon, and vanilla in the protein powder really even out all the weird stuff.

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by mantas »

pabloarteel wrote: post #25
MrDresden wrote: post #13

I've noticed that my 'first' brain acts faster and better if my 'second' brain is feeling good. Probiotic foods, plenty of water and movement have been key factors there.

what kind of probiotic foods have you successfully included in your daily life?

Fermented veggies.

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by somenameforme »

instagib wrote: post #51
Dr_Birdbrain wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much creatine, if I may ask?

There’s been some studies for 20g per day to help with chronic migraine. (0) 40g/220lbs, 0.4g/kg. Prevention of traumatic headache, dizziness and fatigue with creatine administration. (1) Similarly, a review of 6 studies found that doses of 5–20 gram of the compound may improve short-term memory and intelligence in healthy people. (2) 0. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/03331024209310... 1. https://www.n…

Be sure to check the timeframes involved. Creatine is a naturally produced in your body, and you also get some from diet. Your body reaches saturation at a rate that varies by person. Some people will see near to 0 benefit from creatine as their body is already producing a near maximal amount of it. But even for those with low creatine levels, a brief loading phase (of ~25g a day for a week) and then 5g a day maintenance will generally see them at peak levels.

There's probably minimal risk of meaningful damage going overboard for a healthy person, but large doses can cause stomach issues for some people, and it seems unlikely to provide benefit beyond going beyond complete saturation. It looks like, of the studies you showed, the only one where they went for a large dosing for a long period of time was when experimenting with it on children with traumatic brain injuries. That's probably because the risk:reward skewed heavily towards reward there.

Re: In the gut's 'second brain,' key agents of health emerge

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Post by sirtaj »

kumarvvr wrote: post #48
abledon wrote: post #6

yogis were right

Indian culture places very strict restrictions about food. 1. No outside food. For even until a decade ago, eating out was considered a last resort. The idea is that one must be aware of what exactly goes into ones food, and that usually meant home cooked food. 2. There are a variety of foods and flavors in India, that are recommended for various circumstances and contexts. Pregnant women had a well defined diet regi…

This sounds a lot like a specific caste's food culture than general Indian culture. Dhabas and street vendors didn't pop up overnight.
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