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Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by voiceblue »

namocat wrote: post #87
reidjs wrote: post #82

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Another possibility is that people who build products don’t actually care about leadership drama as much as Twitter or HN

Almost all of the OpenAI team signed a letter saying they would resign if the board is not replaced, so safe to say that they do care about the leadership drama; perhaps more than the rest of us.

There was at least one OpenAI employee on Blind [0] saying that they (unclear who "they" is but presumably some other employees) pressured employees into signing and called him in the middle of the night to do it. I just googled it and found a thread as well [1].

[0] https://teamblind.com

[1] https://www.teamblind.com/post/OpenAI-employees-did-you-sign...

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by Cerium »

snypher wrote: post #72
brap wrote: post #49

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> I have some slight annoyances with how it handles natural pauses as I collect my thoughts and speak I hate this about all voice assistants. They force you to speak in an unnatural way. It seems like there’s nothing intelligent about when they decide to respond, it’s like they just wait for X milliseconds of silence instead of using the context of what’s being said like a human would. Sometimes it’s the opposite pro…

>They force you to speak in an unnatural way. I think the same thing can happen when speaking to anyone with different societal/cultural factors than yours. We just become more accustomed to it over time and it's less noticed. I think if this GPT had a big green alien face then we would find speaking to it less strange, somehow.

Yeah, but I don't want to be code-switching with a computer.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Aerbil313 wrote: post #76
mickelsen wrote: post #67

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It's interesting how in my frustration I intuitively tried that push-to-talk sorta-feature and it worked. Integrating something like Whisper and streaming live text could be neat, especially considering how different cultures handle conversational pauses and turn-taking. Wondering why there's no move towards full-duplex conversations in such tools.

Because it’s hard. I’m not aware of any full duplex speech assistant existing yet.

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Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by redsh »

Aerbil313 wrote: post #76
mickelsen wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting how in my frustration I intuitively tried that push-to-talk sorta-feature and it worked. Integrating something like Whisper and streaming live text could be neat, especially considering how different cultures handle conversational pauses and turn-taking. Wondering why there's no move towards full-duplex conversations in such tools.

Because it’s hard. I’m not aware of any full duplex speech assistant existing yet.

I wondered if this was possible, so I tried to build it, and I ended up making an app: Call Annie (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/call-annie/id6447928709). Feel free to try it out and let me know what you think

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by jmccarthy »

lkozloff wrote: post #7

Interesting - this was actually a feature that got me to convert. I have some slight annoyances with how it handles natural pauses as I collect my thoughts and speak, but overall it's been great. I've had some interesting discussions and it's helped me structure some thoughts by asking questions and follow-ups, then summarizing our conversation... all while I'm on a walk. One fun thing I did with my family was have i…

While walking the dog today, it talked me through some trade-offs between DBSCAN and isolation forests. Walking + verbalizing the problem is a very different and positive experience for me.

I've also used it several times on ~15-20min drives to memorize something I wanted to have available for immediate recall. I had it chunk & quiz me, and by the end of the drive I had it down pat. Fun use of drive time.

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Post by tananaev »

realharo wrote: post #103

It says it doesn't work when you have chat history turned off - and thus data collection, which is combined into the same setting. Even on the paid version.

It's not because OpenAI wants to force people to enable history. It's just a technical limitation in the way it currently works.

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Post by mattmaroon »

charles_f wrote: post #108

I don't get why in the midst of llm craze, Amazon is ditching devs from Alexa. It seems like abandoning a product for which the right technology just got invented

Alexa is a great example of a business building a market leading product that a lot of people love and then just completely failing to do anything with it.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by safety1st »

xyst wrote: post #43

Remember: If it’s free. You are the product.

It's not free, though. There's a free tier, but the product is ChatGPT Plus, metered access to API/newer models, etc.

Usually this truism is invoked in reference to advertising business models where the actual customer is advertisers, and you're just inventory so from cable TV to web search the business has usually been happy to take a shit in your mouth whenever it serves their advertisers.

We will see how things pan out with ChatGPT as the interests of a ChatGPT Plus user likely align closely with the interests of someone on the free tier. Historically I think freemium business models tend to be kinder to their customers than advertising-based ones, or at the least, they simply lean on you until you upgrade to paying customer (if they do enshittify the free tier I think you would see an amazing conversion rate to ChatGPT Plus because the product is so good and unique).

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