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Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by pyrophane »

rvz wrote: post #37
mchanson wrote: post #16

As a paid ChatGPT user for many months now I’m glad they move so fast making the service better. I happily take that over a slowly improving but always reliable service. Let reliability come later. For now it’s great they move fast even at the cost of service disruption.

If this was GitHub (or even X or Threads) that went down, you would never see a comment like this: "As a paid GitHub user for many months now I’m glad they move so fast making the service better. I happily take that over a slowly improving but always reliable service. Let reliability come later. For now it’s great they move fast even at the cost of service disruption." No user accepts frequent service disruption. Esp…

Well, the problem with those 3 examples is I think they all basically do most of what people want from them already, so if they don't change that is mostly fine. Stability is more important for their users.

ChatGPT on the other hand, isn't finished baking yet, and all the companies that are building a product on top of it are doing it because they expect more, and they expect more on a VC startup timetable, which means quickly.

Edit: and, you know, given how new the space is, there is a relative dearth of companies who have integrated ChatGPT in mission-critical ways that can't withstand an API service disruption or two.

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by Max-q »

wheelerof4te wrote: post #25
icapybara wrote: post #13

If this is related to the weekend’s events, it’s just sad. I subscribed a few weeks ago and chatgpt 4 is such a handy thing to have. They potentially broke up a great company and product for nothing. I think it was Roon on Twitter who put it best: “wanton destruction of a beautiful thing”.

"They potentially broke up a great company and product for nothing." Wake up, the AI chatbot craze phase is over. Find some other ways to boost your productivity that are more reliable and will not turn your brain into pudding.

I use it for productivity and it's great. Why should I stop doing that?

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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mchanson wrote: post #16

As a paid ChatGPT user for many months now I’m glad they move so fast making the service better. I happily take that over a slowly improving but always reliable service. Let reliability come later. For now it’s great they move fast even at the cost of service disruption.

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Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by two_in_one »

mchanson wrote: post #16

As a paid ChatGPT user for many months now I’m glad they move so fast making the service better. I happily take that over a slowly improving but always reliable service. Let reliability come later. For now it’s great they move fast even at the cost of service disruption.

> I’m glad they move so fast making the service better.

I'm afraid this part is over. :-/. Hope they at least stay in business and keep providing what they already have. I'm trying to get the max before they collapse. Last days I'm using GPT-4 for coding, it's amazing tool when you get used to. It will be really a big loss if it's gone. As for those without access I feel sorry. Digital divide becomes wider and more real.

Doubt MS will provide anything like ChatGPT-4 Plus for $20/month. It may take them a year to replicated, assuming they get the core experts from OpenAI. And then they will be focused on business customers.

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by logankilpatrick »

icapybara wrote: post #13

If this is related to the weekend’s events, it’s just sad. I subscribed a few weeks ago and chatgpt 4 is such a handy thing to have. They potentially broke up a great company and product for nothing. I think it was Roon on Twitter who put it best: “wanton destruction of a beautiful thing”.

Unrelated, just the normal challenges of running a service with 100M weekly active users. Sorry for the disruption and hang tight!

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by icelancer »

rushingcreek wrote: post #46

https://phind.com is up and running for those looking for an alternative. Disclosure: I'm a co-founder.

I actually recommended Phind internally at my company about 10 minutes ago. It's the only service I've used besides ChatGPT-4 that has helped in coding.

Really impressive site. Takes a lot for me to use any other coding assistant since I think they're mostly grifters or wastes of time, but Phind is legitimately pretty helpful.

Since this reads like a paid comment (it isn't, I still don't even pay for Phind yet), I'll elaborate and say what I used Phind for was CUDA-specific and cv2 debugging and code examples that GPT-4-turbo kept shitting the bed on. I suspect that Phind may have better performance when it comes to lower level software development, but I haven't done enough comparisons to truly say.

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by logankilpatrick »

dereg wrote: post #9

Likely connected to the fact that they released voice chat for free users an hour ago. https://x.com/openai/status/1727065166188274145 Assuming these two things are related, if I may editorialize just a tiny bit, I am a little annoyed at how much their rollouts often disrupt service for paying customers. Paid users being impacted by free user rushes really sucks, but is understandable. API developers being impacted b…

Really apologize for the disruption, unrelated to the events of this week and also not related to the voice rollout. The team is working fast on a fix! Hang tight.

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by dang »

dereg wrote: post #9

Likely connected to the fact that they released voice chat for free users an hour ago. https://x.com/openai/status/1727065166188274145 Assuming these two things are related, if I may editorialize just a tiny bit, I am a little annoyed at how much their rollouts often disrupt service for paying customers. Paid users being impacted by free user rushes really sucks, but is understandable. API developers being impacted b…

Related ongoing thread:

ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38370252 - Nov 2023 (29 comments)

Re: Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT

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Post by icelancer »

pram wrote: post #41

I’ve been using gpt-4-1106-preview from the API (mostly to use retrieval) and it’s insanely slow. I can submit something and watch a YouTube it takes so long sometimes. I can’t imagine the issues they’re having trying to scale this, present drama excluded.

Same. gpt-4-1106-preview has been brutally slow, which is a bummer since as of a few days ago, it got a lot faster in our evals.

I'm one of the lucky ones to have Claude API access but it's garbage for almost anything technical, so I don't use it. (Solid for writing and liberal arts stuff though)

This whole nonsense around OpenAI made me sign up for Azure OpenAI access, which takes 10 days to get approved by their team (lol). I emailed my buddy who works at Microsoft Research and told him this was absurd, and in the form I used bunch of curse words and copy/pasted my OpenAI billing statement.

I got approved in 12 hours. As usual, it's who you know in this industry...

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