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OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

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Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

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Does anybody know who is currently CEO of OpenAI? Friday, Sam. Saturday, Mira. Sunday was a day off, Monday it was Emmet so who is it for today? Kidding aside, the board is under more and more pressure but - surprisingly - they haven't folded yet. I am interpreting that as that they are trying to get something out of it that nobody is willing to give them. The new CEO is also surprisingly not to be found at all, no p…

Satoshi Nakamoto probably

Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

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> What Bloomberg Intelligence Says "A potential return of Sam Altman as OpenAI’s CEO will likely strengthen Microsoft’s strategic positioning, especially if it’s able to procure a seat on the new board. This could also be the preferred outcome for Microsoft, given a high legal risk if it hires a majority of OpenAI employees. We see little to no likelihood that Microsoft will buy OpenAI amid ongoing regulatory hurdles…

> given a high legal risk if it hires a majority of OpenAI employees

What legal risk would that be? All they have to do is to claim that they are protecting their interests, besides it is not as if Microsoft has ever been afraid of a legal challenge.

Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

#23

Does anybody know who is currently CEO of OpenAI? Friday, Sam. Saturday, Mira. Sunday was a day off, Monday it was Emmet so who is it for today? Kidding aside, the board is under more and more pressure but - surprisingly - they haven't folded yet. I am interpreting that as that they are trying to get something out of it that nobody is willing to give them. The new CEO is also surprisingly not to be found at all, no p…

> Does anybody know who is currently CEO of OpenAI?

Emmett Shear.

Altman won't be back.

Investors like success and returns but they don't like companies where all the employees have basically sworn out an oath of fealty to the CEO, as it means they (the investors) have basically no control over anything.

Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

#24

Does anybody know who is currently CEO of OpenAI? Friday, Sam. Saturday, Mira. Sunday was a day off, Monday it was Emmet so who is it for today? Kidding aside, the board is under more and more pressure but - surprisingly - they haven't folded yet. I am interpreting that as that they are trying to get something out of it that nobody is willing to give them. The new CEO is also surprisingly not to be found at all, no p…

I don’t think the board is under any pressure. If they don’t do anything else they just need the employees to fold on their threat to resign. Even if the employees resign, ChatGPT is still running and there are lots of people willing to take the defecting employees spots.

The only thing they are pressured on is to fill in the story for the media point of view which is irrelevant to the actual functioning of OpenAI.

Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

#25

Assuming Altman has already signed paper with MSFT, how would this work exactly? Break whatever contract clause there was involved? Maybe it's customary to have an easy backout period in situations like this.

I am not sure the enforceability of non-competes in California. They're certainly not for ordinary workers but I know that it is often enforceable in other places for executives even when deemed not for workers.

I think parent means breaking the contract with MS if he returns to OpenAI.

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How does someone come back without being livid about what just happened?

Without giving it much thought, my first impulse would be that every single person who participated in the ousting would have to resign and go away immediately. I cannot conceive of any way to clear the air and approach the work to be done with a clear mental state.

Too vindictive or appropriately restorative?

Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

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Does anybody know who is currently CEO of OpenAI? Friday, Sam. Saturday, Mira. Sunday was a day off, Monday it was Emmet so who is it for today? Kidding aside, the board is under more and more pressure but - surprisingly - they haven't folded yet. I am interpreting that as that they are trying to get something out of it that nobody is willing to give them. The new CEO is also surprisingly not to be found at all, no p…

Current CEO is effectively the co-CEO of three board members at any given time.

Given that:

1. Cycled three CEOs in less than a week.

2. The current interim CEO is in talks to resign (because the board still has not given a clear reason to why Sam was fired).

Re: OpenAI investors keep pushing for Sam Altman’s return

#30

> What Bloomberg Intelligence Says "A potential return of Sam Altman as OpenAI’s CEO will likely strengthen Microsoft’s strategic positioning, especially if it’s able to procure a seat on the new board. This could also be the preferred outcome for Microsoft, given a high legal risk if it hires a majority of OpenAI employees. We see little to no likelihood that Microsoft will buy OpenAI amid ongoing regulatory hurdles…

> given a high legal risk if it hires a majority of OpenAI employees What legal risk would that be? All they have to do is to claim that they are protecting their interests, besides it is not as if Microsoft has ever been afraid of a legal challenge.

MS and OpenAI certainly have non-solicitation clauses in their contracts. MS could afford the legal battle but isn't it better for them to wait it out and see what happens first?
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