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Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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post #9

I think it'd more effectively go into the appropriate hands by at least charging some nominal amount. Advertise that anyone may visit the public library and purchase a subsidized internet-capable device for $20. Or $5. Free just has no chance of being an efficient distribution.

Exactly this. The amount of wasteful greedy/hoarding behavior that is induced by free and is curbed by charging even $20 is quite high. Charging 50% of the going resale rate is probably enough to prevent hoarding and substantially curb resale.

That might be slightly too much for the aims of the program, in which case adjust as needed, realizing that you're trading off one outcome for another.

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

#22

Seems like a feel-good idea but one which would be better implemented by just giving people the money instead and letting them do what they will with it

The insatiable social spender:

>No you can't just give parents money to go buy food for their kids, they will buy drugs. We need adult humans to prepare free lunches for children.

>Why can't you just give them money? They know what they need most

No skin in the game here, I just always found this thinking contradictory.

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

#23

Seems like a feel-good idea but one which would be better implemented by just giving people the money instead and letting them do what they will with it

The idea is people get Chromebooks, not that people get something of the value of $300.

That's the debate. What if you give someone a Chromebook instead of $300 and they cannot afford to repair their car. On the other hand giving someone a Chromebook can have a bigger impact than many other ways they could spend $300.

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except 133,000 individuals could not buy 133,000 chromebooks for the amount of money that it takes one entity to buy 133,000 chromebooks. There’s plenty of free cash/food/shelter around for those who need it. Adding computers to the list is better than just slightly more cash.

Yeah, but it’s cheaper to administer cash outflows. Maybe the state can buy the books for $200 but they have to manage inventory, hire staff, etc etc. So it’s probably cheaper to just cut checks to people for $300 even though the cost per unit is higher.

How can you be assured that those money are used on those ChromeBooks?

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except 133,000 individuals could not buy 133,000 chromebooks for the amount of money that it takes one entity to buy 133,000 chromebooks. There’s plenty of free cash/food/shelter around for those who need it. Adding computers to the list is better than just slightly more cash.

>There’s plenty of free cash/food/shelter around for those who need it. There's plenty, but very little is actually given to those who need it.

Cash is more likely to be nefariously hopped on than computers, especially when the resale market for the computers is destroyed.

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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post #17

Instead of creating jobs, or trying to help businesses, let's buy 133,000 laptops because lack of Chromebooks are what are holding people back. 28 million can't be spent better than buying Chromebooks.

In all, over the last decade, the [teachers] union spent $6,448,327 on travel expenses. That comes out to an average of $53,736 a month, every month, for 10 straight years. How does that fulfill the union’s tax-exempt mission to “elevate the quality of public education for all students”? That amount does not include "Conferences, conventions, and meetings." https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/marylands-te...

Baltimore City Schools received 29 federal Covid grants totaling $799M to fight learning loss. Yet, in 2023, just 9.1% of all 3rd-8th graders tested proficient in math. MEANING, taxpayers gave an additional $799M and 91% of Baltimore students are NOT math proficient. New test scores, known as MCAP (Maryland Comprehensive Assessment Program), obtained by Project Baltimore, revealed that 23 schools, including elementary, middle, and high schools, had not one student that could do math at grade level.

  A Calverton educator, who reached out to Fox45, claims to have received that text. “[It instructed me to] go into my grade book, make sure no students are failing, and essentially change the grade if they are failing so they will pass with a 60 percent,” said the teacher, whose identity we are concealing upon request.

  “I was frustrated as a teacher. We’re public servants. And when we see things like grade changing, that’s self-serving. That’s not helping the kids.”

  After watching Fox45’s recent investigations into allegations of grade changing at Calverton, the City Schools employee contacted Project Baltimore to say a couple things. First, according to the teacher, grade changing at Calverton is “very common.”

  Second, the educator told Fox45, changing grades is the easiest and fastest way to pass more students, which makes the school and its administrators look better. But, it does a huge disservice to not just the kids, but our entire community.

  “Teaching a whole generation of kids that they don’t have to be accountable for their actions, or that hard work isn’t valued or valuable when they are in school, is so discouraging and damaging.”
Adding insult to injury, the same teacher said that he even passed kids who had been on his roster all year but didn’t bother to show up for a single day of class. But this teacher says grade changing at Calverton goes much further than just taking a failing grade and making it a 60. Some students who pass, according to this educator, don’t even have grades because they’ve never showed up to class. “There were students on my roster all year that I had never met, had never seen. On paper they passed my class and passed onto the next year.”

  “I love my job and I love my students,” concluded the teacher. “I want to see the students at Calverton and other schools across the city, get a fresh start. And it’s going to be hard because the students are used to this now. But the students deserve better and our city deserve better.”
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/project-balt...

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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post #13

Recent Chromebooks are extremely nice devices. For example, $299 at BestBuy gets you an Asus CM3401. It has AMD Ryzen CPU (with similar performance as 8th gen mobile i7), 1080p screen, and an M.2 SSD you can upgrade yourself. Downside is the weight -- 1.8kg (almost 4lbs) -- and that 16 GB RAM model costs extra. But perfectly good for using Crostini (ChromeOS's Linux VM -- you can run your favorite Debian programs, in…

I wonder what is the percentage of people that would even consider "run [their] favorite Debian programs..." on their Chromebook.

Re: Maryland will hand out 133k Chromebooks to the public

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The following Dell laptop would be better than a vendor locked in Chromebook: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-15-lap...

Wait, vendor locked? I was about to get a chromebook for $120 and put some linux on it.

I got one with the same intent and it’s not as easy as it used to be sadly. I was disappointed.

https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton

If you want to get a Google account there’s Crostini, but it’s not the same. AFAICT you need to log in with a Google account.

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