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Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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How does it help clear the bad image? There are seemingly no large crypto orgs left that are untouched by criminal convictions.

There are no criminal charges involving Coinbase or Kraken. Litigation by SEC yes, criminal charges no. There’s a very meaningful difference there. The first type can ruin your business, the second put you behind bars too.

Not your keys, not your crypto. Never use exchanges.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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I have a question why is what CZ did different from what SBF did? I mean other than SBF getting caught over-extended in downgrading market they both did the same type of fraud.

FTX took funds from customers and used them to run a hedge fund. When the fund did poorly, the customers' funds were gone, leaving a $8B hole. And they lied to customers about it.

Binance is very different. While it hasn't complied with various securities laws, it's never lied to customers and has kept customers' assets safe. They've also done steps to build confidence and be transparent like verifying proof of reserves:

https://www.binance.com/en/proof-of-reserves

While this report isn't perfect, it does show that wallets they control have as much in assets as they're supposed to, so we know they're not doing what FTX did.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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It’s funny how true believers in communism and true believers in crypto talk exactly the same way nowadays. “FTX and Binance are not examples of true crypto!” “Soviet Union and Venezuela are not examples of true communism!”

huh. both of those quotes are true for easily quantifiable reasons? you don't have be a believer in either to understand that objectively

It's a tautology, as no implementation of a concept will ever be equivalent to the pure concept. The real existing examples of implementations of concepts will still tell you something about the viability of the concept.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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Happy to see this whole thing finally coming to an end, its a nice wrap to the dead market we've had for the past 2 years. I'm excited for 2024 in crypto!

What makes you think this is the end of anything?

The rumour about Binance indictment by DoJ has been going around for 1-2 years now. Its one of the last remaining pieces of major news that could have potentially negatively affected the industry. After two years of prosecutions, regulatory uncertainty and general poor market conditions, its only now starting to feel like there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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Just put the fixed IP addresses for the various archive.?? domains in your hosts file. This completely resolved the problem for me.

can you paste the relevant /etc/hosts lines

IP addresses might vary depending on geo location or time. Here is what I get from DNS currently, that you can put in your /etc/hosts

51.38.69.52 archive.is archive.today

41.77.143.21 archive.ph archive.li archive.vn archive.fo archive.md

And if all else fails, install Tor and access their site at archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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The second half of money laundering is you need a way to pretend to have income from a plausible source. People will ask questions like "How do you pay for your groceries?" and "Where did you find the money to buy a $37M penthouse?" and your paper trail needs to convince people the answer isn't "With the billions of dollars I embezzled."

I understand your point but I feel like even a 10 year old could come up with 100 plausible excuses. Many of them end with "Consultant", "Collector", or "Trader".

For whom did you consult? What collection did you sell? What trades did you make, with what starting capital?

If you can't answer those questions -- questions the tax man at least will expect you to answer, and probably other people as well -- you might as well say "I found money in the street."

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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> May the entire of crypto be brought down with it Pretty hard to get rid of decentralized systems.

Crypto is pretty centralised thanks to these exchanges and many blockchains running solely on AWS such as Ethereum. Crypto being ‘decentralised’ is a well known myth.

You don't need exchanges for cryptocurrencies to work, they just make onboarding easier.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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"True crypto has never been tried"

I too enjoy the no true Scotsman fallacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman - I've been meaning to look it up for a while.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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post #102
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"True crypto has never been tried"

It’s funny how true believers in communism and true believers in crypto talk exactly the same way nowadays. “FTX and Binance are not examples of true crypto!” “Soviet Union and Venezuela are not examples of true communism!”

FTX and Binance are exchanges, not cryptos. It's like confusing NYSE and NASDAQ with the stocks that they exchange.
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