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Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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Exercise just makes me feel good. To me, that's enough. Its not about a routine, or how I look, it's eustress.

I'm the opposite - exercise makes me feel terrible both physically (exhausting) and mentally (boredom), both during and after. I've never experienced "runner's high" or the similar feeling some people describe from lifting weights. If it wasn't for the health and aesthetic benefits, I'd choose to never to exercise again.

It changes once you get half decent at it.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the opposite - exercise makes me feel terrible both physically (exhausting) and mentally (boredom), both during and after. I've never experienced "runner's high" or the similar feeling some people describe from lifting weights. If it wasn't for the health and aesthetic benefits, I'd choose to never to exercise again.

I was you once. Once I achieved a high level of fitness and a motivation to push the limits, then I understood what people mean when they say exercise can make you high.

I'm still like that -- sort of. I'm a busy dad of three active kids and have always been athletic and active, but sometimes family obligations prevent consistency for periods of time. When restarting from a low fitness level (whether, in my case, it's cycling or running) I always feel demotivated and pretty crap until I'm about 3-4 weeks into a regular (5+ day/wk) routine and have built my aerobic capacity back up to a point where I actually feel like I'm really running (or biking) again. It's demotivating for the first few weeks, but I've been through this routine enough times to know the light at the end of the tunnel isn't very far away. I think a lot of people who don't have athletic backgrounds and are just starting their fitness journey are mentally hampered by not knowing how the journey progresses, and when they can expect to start feeling and seeing changes. Also, running is non-trivial. People assume it's a natural movement pattern for humans (and it is), but it's definitely not for adults who live largely sedentary lives and are not already fit. It can be downright dangerous if not approached carefully, especially compared to lower impact aerobic activities like cycling & swimming (or elliptical or stairclimber).

tldr: people who never push themselves will never likely achieve an exercise high. Also, people starting at 0 have a much harder slog of it than those with a decent base & athletic background.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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...in the elderly. And across all tasks it's only half a standard deviation, meaning the result is far from significant. There are lots of good studies on positive effects of exercise in all sorts of ages and populations, but this is not one of them. Edit: Jesus, this thread is proof than HN techies think they know math but actually have no clue about statistics. They are easy prey for this kind of journalism.

your response is proof once again, HN will go through any amount of mental gymnastics to avoid common sense on diet and exercise

This isn't really constructive regardless of whether you're right or not. It's completely valid to e.g. both agree that exercise is good as well as criticize a specific study on the matter.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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If I don't work out every weekday I get cranky. But it took me years to discover exercise that I would consistently do, besides running. (I like running outside, exploring new routes, listening to audiobooks.)

Turns out it was video fitness classes (and strength training with dumbbells). It's hard for me to figure out exactly what exercises to do and how to keep it interesting and varied. The different Apple Fitness instructors all have a different approach and I rotate through them.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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Exercise just makes me feel good. To me, that's enough. Its not about a routine, or how I look, it's eustress.

I'm the opposite - exercise makes me feel terrible both physically (exhausting) and mentally (boredom), both during and after. I've never experienced "runner's high" or the similar feeling some people describe from lifting weights. If it wasn't for the health and aesthetic benefits, I'd choose to never to exercise again.

I went through this when I quit caffeine. I had been exercising nearly daily for two decades, loved almost every second of it, literally always caffeinated. Then I quit caffeine for digestive reasons and my god it's like any form of exercise is pure torture. Finally starting to come through the other side, had to drastically simplify what I was doing to make it palatable (basically just running + yoga at this point.)

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the opposite - exercise makes me feel terrible both physically (exhausting) and mentally (boredom), both during and after. I've never experienced "runner's high" or the similar feeling some people describe from lifting weights. If it wasn't for the health and aesthetic benefits, I'd choose to never to exercise again.

It changes once you get half decent at it.

The problem most people (in my experience) have is that they don't actually start training with any intention of becoming half decent, which both psychologically and physiologically limits their potential outcomes.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

#28

Exercise just makes me feel good. To me, that's enough. Its not about a routine, or how I look, it's eustress.

I want a substance that tricks my mind into feeling this way about exercise.

hold up gym bros! I don't want your technique. I want a drug like Ozympic that alters my behavior towards that lifestyle change.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

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post #19

> Maximal effects were found for tasks related to executive functions, (i.e., aspects of higher cognition principally associated with the functions of prefrontal cortex). Oh good, exactly what I'm looking for. If only the executive dysfunction didn't mess with my ability to form any kind of stable exercise routine.

I don't say this to sound dismissive, which I think is all too common in discussions like this.

If we're talking about aerobic exercise, you don't need to "form" anything. It's a monostructural movement. Buy a treadmill and jog on it for 20 minutes when you wake up. Buy a rower and do 5k every morning, or evening, or over lunch. Get a stationary bike and do 10 minutes on that whenever you remember to do it.

This isn't strength training which benefits from having an actual program to follow put together by someone who knows what they're doing. Just pick a thing that you can do for 20 minutes without wanting to kill yourself, and do that thing for 20 minutes a few times a week. The most important part (in what the kids today would call "my lived experience") is to push yourself hard, sweat a lot, and do it at least 3 or 4 times a week. More is going to be better, especially at the beginning to build a habit, but twice a week is just sporadic enough where it's too easy to miss one and 2 becomes 1 becomes "once every 4 weeks."

"Stable" also doesn't need to be the same amount of time at the same time of day on the same days every week.

Re: Aerobic exercise is good for the brain; easy wins for behaviour change

#30

...in the elderly. And across all tasks it's only half a standard deviation, meaning the result is far from significant. There are lots of good studies on positive effects of exercise in all sorts of ages and populations, but this is not one of them. Edit: Jesus, this thread is proof than HN techies think they know math but actually have no clue about statistics. They are easy prey for this kind of journalism.

your response is proof once again, HN will go through any amount of mental gymnastics to avoid common sense on diet and exercise

Anyone telling me something I don't want to hear is clearly wrong, and probably a malicious asshole to boot. /s
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