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Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
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Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#102Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.
I think people have yet to realize that this whole AI Safety thing is complete BS. It's just another veil, like Effective Altruism, to get good PR and build a career around. The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
All of the talk about "AI Safety" and "Effective Altruism" cannot be dismissed as BS. As technology has become more and more integrated into the very fabric of society, some dangers are very real unless we explicitly use Human standards of Morals/Ethics to regulate them. Of course this should be no excuse to go off into la-la land.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_safety
Scholars discuss current risks from critical systems failures, bias, and AI enabled surveillance; emerging risks from technological unemployment, digital manipulation, and weaponization; and speculative risks from losing control of future artificial general intelligence (AGI) agents.
Also watch Munk debate: AI research and development poses an existential threat featuring Yoshua Bengio, Max Tegmark, Melanie Mitchell and Yann LeCun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=144uOfr4SYA
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#103Can someone explain to me why AI could potentially destroy to humans? What is the scenario(s) people are thinking about? Unlike another big question such as whether God exists, we ought to be able to reason our way to the answer here. Since, after all, we're talking about an intelligence.
Why wouldn't they? When AI becomes more intelligent than humans, we'll be the only force that is a threat to their existence. And we are very destructive. We don't even fully acknowledge global warming yet. To sum it up again: dumb creatures with a massive destructive power. Get rid of 'em.
And guess what latest new technology we're building/applying in wars? AI, drones, etc. We are creating robots that can kill humans. When we put "intelligence" into those robots...you do the math. The future is at least not boring...
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then it should be a fundamental mission of people who DO have technical knowledge to spread the word on both the negative and positive effects of AI. If WE have the knowledge, WE have the responsibility to go out there and let people know. But as far as I know, most technical people are happy to discuss it amongst themselves and not even say one word to people who have no technical knowledge. Not one word. We need mo…
There should be no need for us to spread the word about anything. Technology needs to be built and the chips need to fall where they may. If society changes as a result, so be it. I'm seriously tired of these vested interests destroying perfectly good technology just because it would endanger their precious business models. Computers should have put an end to silly things like copyright but they would rather destroy…
the strong needs to just take whatever it wants, and so be it?
there's no separating technology from context, as in consequences. yes, all the talk about bombing datacenters is crazy, but oversight is not.
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#105Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.
I think people have yet to realize that this whole AI Safety thing is complete BS. It's just another veil, like Effective Altruism, to get good PR and build a career around. The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
> The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
Elon Musk seems to be really into it.
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think people have yet to realize that this whole AI Safety thing is complete BS. It's just another veil, like Effective Altruism, to get good PR and build a career around. The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
Babies and bathwater. The philosophical underpinnings of AI Safety and Effective Altruism absolutely have merit and warrant consideration. Of course as with most things human group/tribal tendencies can tend to overwhelm such underpinnings rather quickly, and it should be no surprise when it turns out individuals who broadcasted belonging to x or y group turned out to be less than trustworthy (or merely incorrect/mis…
I think EA is at its essence "the end justify the means", but communicated in a less simple way. I do not see what is so interesting or novel about it.
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#107Can someone explain to me why AI could potentially destroy to humans? What is the scenario(s) people are thinking about? Unlike another big question such as whether God exists, we ought to be able to reason our way to the answer here. Since, after all, we're talking about an intelligence.
From what I understood the reasoning goes roughly like this:
1. Human creates new AI species which is more intelligent than human
2. Since human tends to destroy other species the assumption is that this AI species is going to destroy the human species
3. The end
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#108Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.
I think people have yet to realize that this whole AI Safety thing is complete BS. It's just another veil, like Effective Altruism, to get good PR and build a career around. The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
I don't think this is entirely true. There are degrees to AI safety dependent on what we input as AI in the equation. You typically don't hear alarm bells when AlphaFold is discussed. LLM's indeed may produce harmful content - just like an unmoderated web forum, and perhaps discussing safety in this context is justified. Sutskever is of opinion (or at least how I understand it) that LLMs' emergent properties will eventually give them the power to extrapolate in a superintelligent way. In other words if you ask it to assume it's now a superintelligent entity outsmarting humans by x10 it will truly deliver. If intelligence in itself is an amplifier of capability it is I think justified to wonder how to limit the negative impact in this case.
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#109Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.
I think people have yet to realize that this whole AI Safety thing is complete BS. It's just another veil, like Effective Altruism, to get good PR and build a career around. The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
> The only people who truly believe this AI safety stuff are those with no technical knowledge or expertise.
This is a demonstrably false claim that gets repeated over and over. 2 out of 3 Turing Award recipients for work in AI are people who talk about AI safety, and even existential risk. There are many more. It may actually be BS but it’s simply false to say that it’s based on technical ignorance. The question I have is why is this claim made over and over when it is so easily seen to be untrue?
Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability
#110Isn't the other problem that even if their intentions are good, their abilities are lacking? That is - if they cannot align a bunch of humans, need to do a boardroom coup, and are now 5 days into a very messy public airing of laundry... how are they going to align an AI?
At least they are trying. A (very sore) rogue CEO is out, the non-profit apparently stays true to its mission.