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Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by martindbp »

rramadass wrote: post #6

Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.

I'd be interested in the real reason Dario et al left to form Anthropic, it must clearly have been a misalignment with Altman's ambition. It seems likely that Altman is more of a Steve Jobs type, perhaps even better at politics, maneuvering and fund raising. He managed to get rid of Musk and turn a non-profit into a $90 billion company, very impressive indeed.

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by chx »

rramadass wrote: post #6

Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.

There's plenty of bullshit going around.

You can't convince me ChatGPT launching a few weeks within the collapse of FTX is a coincidence.

The crypto hustle-scam is over, time for the next hype cycle.

That's all there is.

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by highduc »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #20
highduc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was not talking about the success but the core tech those employees are working with. That's what really matters isn't it?

If there is no success then there is nothing to discuss.

You get my point. With all due respect to Sam's technical abilities, if I'd have to choose one to make AI/AGI I'd clearly go with Ilya. The fact that Sam goes to Microsoft doesn't mean all OpenAI is moves to Microsoft. That is the point I'm trying to make

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by makingstuffs »

Complete tin hat theory here so do not take it as anything more than a hypothetical what if but… how do we know that the board weren’t secretly in receipt of an under the table payment to do exactly this?

Again, complete hypothetical hyperbole, please do not take this as anything else.

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by ulnarkressty »

rramadass wrote: post #6

Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.

Successful CEO does successful CEO things. From another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38360906

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by danielbln »

chx wrote: post #22
rramadass wrote: post #6

Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.

There's plenty of bullshit going around. You can't convince me ChatGPT launching a few weeks within the collapse of FTX is a coincidence. The crypto hustle-scam is over, time for the next hype cycle. That's all there is .

Boy, people really love to ride the "AI is the new crypto" narrative, huh? Even pulling in spurious relationships to make the point (. Yet here I am, using this tech every day to for productive uses, greatly improving what I can accomplish. What did crypto ever do for us in comparison?

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by trosi »

Devasta wrote: post #9

Honestly there is something deeply shameful about tech workers finally organizing, uniting together in one voice, and using that voice to defend Sam Altman of all people.

They like money just like everyone else does. And you can't build AGI without a lot of money.

The board screwed up. They could have negotiated with MS on another CEO. Instead they went behind everyone's backs and thought themselves omnipotent. Well, guess what.

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by dmw_ng »

jacquesm wrote: post #11
rramadass wrote: post #6

Finally! Somebody has said it plainly. Sam Altman is merely another "Tech Executive" out for himself and his buddies making money off of true path-breaking researchers. "AI Trailblazer", "Helping Humanity with AGI" etc. was all bullshit.

I don't think there was any doubt about that. Did anybody here believe that crap?

According to stackoverflow over 70% of the industry are younger than 34, I think a few grey hairs are needed before "because security" attains its invariable meaning

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by martindbp »

Devasta wrote: post #9

Honestly there is something deeply shameful about tech workers finally organizing, uniting together in one voice, and using that voice to defend Sam Altman of all people.

People hate Musk because he says everything that comes to mind, but it's people like Altman that scare me, because he's actually good at this game and it's difficult to get a sense of his true motivations.

Re: Sam Altman exposes the charade of AI accountability

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Post by chx »

danielbln wrote: post #26
chx wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's plenty of bullshit going around. You can't convince me ChatGPT launching a few weeks within the collapse of FTX is a coincidence. The crypto hustle-scam is over, time for the next hype cycle. That's all there is .

Boy, people really love to ride the "AI is the new crypto" narrative, huh? Even pulling in spurious relationships to make the point (. Yet here I am, using this tech every day to for productive uses, greatly improving what I can accomplish. What did crypto ever do for us in comparison?

I am not participating in industrial strength gaslighting.

"greatly improving what I can accomplish" is a trap.

But to each their own.

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