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Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

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Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

#41

It’s not critical, it’s arbitrary. The earth is warming, it’s going to keep warming. What we should do is focus on practical responses to both limit future warming and handle the consequences of where we’re heading. The moralizing and doom don’t really help anybody.

ehh since it's already happening might as well don't care

Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

#43
post #15

Welp. Time for a conference we all fly to using private jets to tell the plebs how it's their doing that's destroying the planet. Maybe agree on a tax or something that screws over the little guy while having absolutely no effect on the global climate.

Which "tax or something" screws over the little guy while having absolutely no effect on the global climate?

Merely an observation: no tax thus far exacted by any government anywhere has had any measurable effect on the global climate, again, thus far. Taxes relating to emissions and the like relate to emissions etc., not global climate metrics. They have had a beneficial effect on atmospheric pollutants like sulfur dioxide, fluorocarbons and many others.

Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

#44
post #15

Welp. Time for a conference we all fly to using private jets to tell the plebs how it's their doing that's destroying the planet. Maybe agree on a tax or something that screws over the little guy while having absolutely no effect on the global climate.

It's also time to greenwash some money to warm up our image.... I mean... it's time to invest in some corporations that promise to fix climate through elaborate yet ineffective means. ... or if that not helps maybe it is time to destroy some more Van Gogh paintings or something.

>... or if that not helps maybe it is time to destroy some more Van Gogh paintings or something.

I wish that this kind of symbolic transgression could really be the most tragic consequences of the situation.

I could come with a digression of my own, but probably you’ll be better serve with a document like https://phys.org/news/2021-10-climate-contributes-global-vio...

Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

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post #15

Welp. Time for a conference we all fly to using private jets to tell the plebs how it's their doing that's destroying the planet. Maybe agree on a tax or something that screws over the little guy while having absolutely no effect on the global climate.

Which "tax or something" screws over the little guy while having absolutely no effect on the global climate?

Banning plastic bags at grocery store checkouts. But still allowing the store to sell their plastic kitchen garbage bags, and policy to only pickup recycling if it’s in a clear plastic bag instead of the old reusable blue bins.

Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which "tax or something" screws over the little guy while having absolutely no effect on the global climate?

Most taxes on motorists outside of large towns/cities (where there's no viable alternative to cars). Of course, climate catastrophists want everyone living in pods in dystopian mega-cities as the solution for this. Ok, 'get in the pods' may be a silly meme, but living a tiny but ludicrously expensive city centre apartment and working from home on a screen (or in a future metaverse) all day, getting most things delive…

The only reason cars are viable "outside large towns/cities" is because the large cities are subsidizing road construction in rural areas.

Those rural area voters, in turn, elect politicians who scream blue bloody murder about how high taxes are, and refuse to vote for funding for public transportation...something that would benefit the cities generating the wealth the rural areas.

Isn't it wild how the "fiscal conservatives" always come from states that consume far more federal spending than they contribute in federal tax revenue?

Further, we over-paved rural areas in the name of "progress" - dirt roads are much, much cheaper but people hate them because they think it's a sign of being poor.

Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

#49
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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Looking at the graphs, however, we should go back to covid society, well, without all the dying. With the dying you save the environment way faster. "We should go back to covid society" just means let's all be ascetic monks. There's too many people in the world. We don't need more wetlands or this or that, we just need to understand that a population that grows without limits always destroys itself, that's all. Wha…

Since I rarely get to talk to Malthusians: Do you have a preferred approach for population reduction? Tangential point: You severely underestimate the impact of scale and specialization on our standard of living. There is no way we could the same variety of nice things at 500million people

> Do you have a preferred approach for population reduction?

Streaming TV and Education.

Educating women, in particular, is strongly correlated with population reduction across the globe.

Two generations of that and the world could be stabilising a billion and half below where we are today.

Re: Earth likely briefly passed critical warming threshold on Friday and Saturday

#50

Maybe we can get off our but(t)s and start restoring wetlands like our lives depend upon it. (Ah, hark, I hear crickets chirping.)

Farmer here. Planted about 1,000 native trees this year in our home-grown revegetation project, and going to spend the next 2 years making sure as many of them as possible don't die. No govt subsidies or anything. Our own $ and our own work. Nobody will do it, nobody will pay to do it, so we do.

Thank you mate , I don’t own land but living near a bunch of abandoned unowned farmland and planning on doing some “guerrilla gardening”.
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