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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Yeah Trump should be the guardian of the superintelligence.

Trump was never democratically elected.

Fairness of the electoral system and fairness of the election(s) are two separate debates.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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There's always other companies. Plus sometimes you just gotta stick to your values. For the Google military contracts it makes even more sense: the protest resignation isn't just a virtue signal, it's also just refusing to contribute to the military.

If you want to deter military action involving your country, contributing to its defense is probably the best thing that you can do. Unless you're not actually the best and brightest that your country can offer. If you believe that your country offers value (compared to the rest of the world), you should take any opportunities you can to serve.

> If you want to deter military action involving your country, contributing to its defense is probably the best thing that you can do.

Given that Google is an American company, do you believe contributing to the American Department of "Defense" increases, or decreases, the amount of military action involving the USA?

The American military isn't called "world police" for nothing, and just like the cops they're sticking their noses where they don't belong and making things worse. I can understand why people would want no part in furthering global violence and destitution.

> If you believe that your country offers value (compared to the rest of the world), you should take any opportunities you can to serve.

Really? There's an obligation to further the American global ambition through contributing militarily? You can't think of any other way to spread American culture and values? To share the bounty of American wealth?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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If you want to deter military action involving your country, contributing to its defense is probably the best thing that you can do. Unless you're not actually the best and brightest that your country can offer. If you believe that your country offers value (compared to the rest of the world), you should take any opportunities you can to serve.

Defense and offense don’t seem easily separated when it comes to military technology.

We're in a really privileged position in human civilization where most of the species is far removed from the banal violence of nature.

You're lucky if you only need weapons to defend yourself against predators.

You're far less lucky if you need weapons to defend yourself because the neighboring mountain village's crops failed and their herds died. You're less lucky if you don't speak the same language as them and they outnumber you three to one and are already 4 days starving. You're less lucky that they're already 4 days starving, wielding farm tools, running down the hills at you, crazed and screaming.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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If you want to deter military action involving your country, contributing to its defense is probably the best thing that you can do. Unless you're not actually the best and brightest that your country can offer. If you believe that your country offers value (compared to the rest of the world), you should take any opportunities you can to serve.

> If you want to deter military action involving your country, contributing to its defense is probably the best thing that you can do. Given that Google is an American company, do you believe contributing to the American Department of "Defense" increases, or decreases, the amount of military action involving the USA? The American military isn't called "world police" for nothing, and just like the cops they're stickin…

We already have nation states and wannabe nation states that take shots at us when they feel like the opportunity is there, despite us being the dominant military around the world. As does France, who has been a leading military power for longer than we have.

That's what having a funded and functional defense is all about -- making other entities not think that the opportunity is there.

I think the planet has relatively finite resources and that I'm god damned lucky to have been born into a nation with the ability to secure resources for itself. I enjoy my quality of life a great deal and would like to maintain it. At a minimum. Before helping others.

If you're the type of person who thinks we should just give up this position by not adequately defending it through military and technology investment, I would prefer that you just expatriate yourself now rather than let some other ascendant nation dictate our future and our quality of life.

If you're the kind of person who feels strongly for the plight of, for example, the Palestinians, you should recognize that the only way to deter those kinds of outcomes is to establish the means to establish and maintain sovereignty. That requires a combination of force and manpower.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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I genuinely believe, based on my experiences with ChatGPT, that it doesn't seem all that threatening or dangerous. I get we're in the part of the movie at the start before shit goes down but I just don't see all the fuss. I feel like it has enormous potential in terms of therapy and having "someone" to talk to that you can bounce ideas off and maybe can help gently correct you or prod you in the right direction. A lo…

Agree on LLMs being effective for nudging therapy like CBT. I built an obsidian plugin "ChatCBT" with chatgpt 3.5 that has really helpful for pulling me out of episodes I start to spiral in negative thinking. I'm shocked how effective this is with a basic prompt (you can see the prompt in the codebase) https://github.com/clairefro/obsidian-chat-cbt-plugin

How would you compare CBT to IFS? I have philosophical issues+differences with CBT because of the what I would characterize as an overemphasis on logic+changing your thinking which subtly or explicitly teaches the lesson that the way you think but most particularly how you feel is invalid or fundamentally "incorrect".

Consequently, I would equate it to well-intentioned gaslighting which is one of the deadliest sins in my view. Gaslighting is one of the most destructive human dynamics to the extent I consider it emotional rape.

I think there's less of a nexus between thinking and feeling as opposed to your thinking being influenced by how you (allow yourself to and honor) feel. (Feel) -> think rather than (think) -> feel although I'm referring more to emphasis rather than negating or disputing the notion that how you think can't self-referentially influence how you feel (but thats more of a perspective thing in my view)

I really like IFS because it actually requires you to bring "everybody" or all the thinking(s) inside to the table and be heard and validated like in InsideOut (pixar). That seems like the best approach and its done amazing things

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Agree on LLMs being effective for nudging therapy like CBT. I built an obsidian plugin "ChatCBT" with chatgpt 3.5 that has really helpful for pulling me out of episodes I start to spiral in negative thinking. I'm shocked how effective this is with a basic prompt (you can see the prompt in the codebase) https://github.com/clairefro/obsidian-chat-cbt-plugin

This is the problem I have when there's so many saying "no we need to wait, wait, wait, what about safety"...people are dying and in horrible states now. This needs to be available, at least the functionality that allows it to engage with you in a therapeutic context. To the extent they try to prevent or block everyone from having access to this kind of profound outlet/tool/conversation partner, I consider it a great…

That's why there's an Ollama option ;)

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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This is the problem I have when there's so many saying "no we need to wait, wait, wait, what about safety"...people are dying and in horrible states now. This needs to be available, at least the functionality that allows it to engage with you in a therapeutic context. To the extent they try to prevent or block everyone from having access to this kind of profound outlet/tool/conversation partner, I consider it a great…

That's why there's an Ollama option ;)

How do you run this on the various platforms for the average bear?

A lot of people who could use it may need an app, like not be capable of getting and running it from source on GitHub. We have to push accessibillity to the techy and not-techy alike for we all live and walk amongst each other and this is the emotional equivalent of vaccination in my conjecture.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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The fact that these people aren't currently willing to "rewind the clock" about a week shows the dangers of human ego. Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply, if all parties agree to undo it. What we're watching now is the effect of ego momentum on decision making. Try it. It's not a crazy idea. Put everything back the way it was a week ago and then agree to move forward. It will be like h…

In general this can't work. People are notoriously ruthless to people who admit their mistakes. For example, if you are in an argument and you lose (whether through poor debate or your argument is plain wrong), and you *admit it*, people don't look back at it as a point of humility - they look at it as a reason to dog pile on you and make sure everyone knows you were wrong. In this case, it's not internet points - it…

What money do the independent board directors stand to gain? They have no equity in the company and their resumes have more than enough employable credentials (before this past Friday) to warrant not caring for money.
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