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Since when can 4-year-olds not form memories? This is neither congruent with medical literature nor experience.
Its called infantile amnesia it why people cant remember their earlychildhood as the brains not great at storing and generating autobiographical memories until about age 5. And it is well recognized in the literature.
Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#712The clear move by OpenAI’s board is to let everyone resign to Microsoft and then release the tech as FOSS to the public. Any other move and Altman/Microsoft wins. By releasing it you maintain the power play and are able to let the world control the end result of whatever advances come from these LLMs. Why this happened and whatever plans were originally planned is irrelevant.
AI safety types don't want to release models (or in this case models, architecture, IP) to the public.
True safety believers understand that safety comes from a general understanding by everyone and audit-able infra otherwise you have no transparency about the potential dangers.
Releasing the tech is only unsafe to those trying to create platform lock-in. By releasing it FOSS you equalize the playing field and destroy Altman’s billions.
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#713I wish we could all just admit that this is a capital run, rather than some moralistic crusade. The employees want to get their big payday, so will follow Altman wherever he goes. Which is the smart thing to do anyway as he runs half the valley. The public discourse in which Sam is the hero is further cemented by the tech ecosystem, which nowadays is circling around AI. Those in the "OpenAI wrapper" game. Nobody has…
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Why is Yudkowsky's HPMOR a "warcrime"?
I find it really good but if you don't like rationality/EY it's really easy to latch on as something to hate (overly smart fanfic does sound cringe on the face of it).
That they paid $28k to distribute to others.
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> which the employees’ livelihood beyond contracted pay and benefits for the time actually worked simply is not included in Quite a few of those employees are also stockholders, besides that this isn't some kids game where after a few rounds you can throw your cards on the table and walk out because you feel that you've had enough of it. You join a board because you are an adult that is capable of forethought and adu…
> Quite a few of those employees are also stockholders None of them are stockholders, because (except for the nonprofit, which can't have stockholders even as a corporation) none of the OpenAI entities are corporations. Some of them have profit-sharing interests and/or (maybe) memberships in the LLC or some similar in interest in the holding company above LLC; the LLC operating agreement (similar function to a corpor…
I base that on the graph on this page:
https://openai.com/our-structure
Specifically this graph:
https://images.openai.com/blob/f3e12a69-e4a7-4fe2-a4a5-c63b6...
Now it may be that I got this completely wrong but it looks to me as though there is an ownership relationship (implying stock is involved) between the entity labelled 'Employees and other investors' and the holding company.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#716I wish we could all just admit that this is a capital run, rather than some moralistic crusade. The employees want to get their big payday, so will follow Altman wherever he goes. Which is the smart thing to do anyway as he runs half the valley. The public discourse in which Sam is the hero is further cemented by the tech ecosystem, which nowadays is circling around AI. Those in the "OpenAI wrapper" game. Nobody has…
We have precedent to see what happened with internet search, advertising, and data collection.
Everything turned out fine.
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Wait, the Anthropic folks quit because they wanted more safety?
Why do you find this so surprising? You make it sound as if OpenAI is already outrageously safety focused. I have talked to a few people from anthropic and they seem to believe that OpenAI doesn't care at all about safety.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#718I wish we could all just admit that this is a capital run, rather than some moralistic crusade. The employees want to get their big payday, so will follow Altman wherever he goes. Which is the smart thing to do anyway as he runs half the valley. The public discourse in which Sam is the hero is further cemented by the tech ecosystem, which nowadays is circling around AI. Those in the "OpenAI wrapper" game. Nobody has…
Their CEO who was doing well as far as anyone can tell, was removed forcibly. It is natural to feel strongly about it.
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Don't forget some might be on holiday, medical leave, or parental leave.
On a digital-detox trip to Patagonia. Return to this in 5 days
“I’m sorry, I can’t do that Dave. Not cuz I’m deciding not to do it but because I can’t for the life of me figure this shit out. Like what was the endgame? This is breaking my neural net”
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Apparently Sam isn't in the Microsoft employee directly yet, so he isn't technically hired at all. Seems like he loses a bit of leverage over the board if they think he & Microsoft are actually bluffing and the employment announcement was just a way to pressure the board into resigning.
Look at the number of tweets from Altman, Brockman and Nadella. I also think they are bluffing. They have launched a media campaign in order to (re)gain control of OpenAI.