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Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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Start work on your next project, or apply for a better job with this as a portfolio piece. To be honest, it's probably much easier to get a 5-10k raise somewhere else with this extra experience than it will be to get people to pay.

I concur with your advice. BigTweet is a nice little add on that the author should be proud of, but few would pay for. But if you keep rolling out apps, the port and exp will grow. Before you know it you have google jet money!

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too would like advice on how to find a UI designer to clean up an existing site without paying a fortune?

Designers are not all super expensive. I'd recommend hitting your regional Craigslist and posting on there, ask for resume / portfolios, and negotiate a price. Tip #1: Pay them, and make it clear you'll pay them. Designers get shit upon so much and get all sorts of 'hey just do this design for me to build your portfolio' - 99% of them are sick of hearing that. Tip #2: Have a clear vision of what you want. The quick w…

I would also add that speaking on the phone or better yet in person does wonders for working with someone.

Going through Craigslist can enable you to find someone local and meet them at a local coffee shop.

It may not seem like much, but actually meeting someone you are going to work with can make a lot of difference later on.

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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post #12

No one will pay you any money for a bookmarklet. Seriously. That's not a business, it's just a hobby at best.

Doesn't it depend on what is behind the bookmarklet? In this case the bookmarklet is launching an application within the web page the user is browsing. Does it matter that the (BigTweet) application is "mobile" rather than at a fixed web site?

Granted, the current functionality is nothing that I would expect anyone to pay for.

As an example, what if the bookmarklet happened to open up a full featured word processor with all the bells and whistles? Not sure that you can say that the product wouldn't be worth anything just because the invocation happened through a bookmarklet ...

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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post #12

No one will pay you any money for a bookmarklet. Seriously. That's not a business, it's just a hobby at best.

Doesn't it depend on what is behind the bookmarklet? In this case the bookmarklet is launching an application within the web page the user is browsing. Does it matter that the (BigTweet) application is "mobile" rather than at a fixed web site? Granted, the current functionality is nothing that I would expect anyone to pay for. As an example, what if the bookmarklet happened to open up a full featured word processor w…

No, the medium is intrinsically wrong. Bookmarklets are easy to copy for free. Perhaps if your bookmarklet led to or interfaced with a fully fledged application, people might be willing to pay for the application - but then the bookmarklet is mostly irrelevant, or at the least is not the central appeal, much like del.icio.us's toolbar is omnipresent and yet not presented as the navel of the application.

I maintain - no one will pay for a bookmarklet, so a website that starts with "we provide a bookmarklet that..." is doomed to remain a hobby.

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't it depend on what is behind the bookmarklet? In this case the bookmarklet is launching an application within the web page the user is browsing. Does it matter that the (BigTweet) application is "mobile" rather than at a fixed web site? Granted, the current functionality is nothing that I would expect anyone to pay for. As an example, what if the bookmarklet happened to open up a full featured word processor w…

No, the medium is intrinsically wrong. Bookmarklets are easy to copy for free. Perhaps if your bookmarklet led to or interfaced with a fully fledged application, people might be willing to pay for the application - but then the bookmarklet is mostly irrelevant, or at the least is not the central appeal, much like del.icio.us's toolbar is omnipresent and yet not presented as the navel of the application. I maintain -…

Okay - I see your point now.

If BigTweet were to ever develop into a more powerful application, I would need to get away from its image as a bookmarklet.

Thanks!

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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I have been using bit.ly and this is cool, but automatically when i hit bigtweet bookmark thing I think it should create the short URL and plop it right into the twitter text box.

Im lazy I want to click bookmarklet toolbar thing..see the short URL in twitter box, type my twitter around it and hit submit.

Overall nice job..something I will use and Im sure others will too.

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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I'd agree with some folks that there is no business here. If you envision a business here, I'd write down exactly what you're going to build that people will pay for, then ask 50 Twitter users if they'd pay for it. If 10% say yes (and you believe them). If not, punt.

Well maybe bit.ly would like to buy it or betaworks can hire/buy you and your tech. It beats their bookmarklet service!

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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I have been using bit.ly and this is cool, but automatically when i hit bigtweet bookmark thing I think it should create the short URL and plop it right into the twitter text box. Im lazy I want to click bookmarklet toolbar thing..see the short URL in twitter box, type my twitter around it and hit submit. Overall nice job..something I will use and Im sure others will too.

BigTweet can already do this!

The short URL is automatically created. If you check the checkbox "Automatically append short URL of current page" then the text area is automatically populated with this short URL. The same can be done for the web page title.

Give it a try and let me know if there is something else you are expecting or would like to see. You can reply to me @scott_carter

Thanks

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

#29
post #7

IMO, hire a graphic/ui designer. No offense, but it's butt ugly.

No offense taken :) I'm a back-end programmer without much UI experience. I was trying for a simplistic layout. Any specific suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!

The page doesn't work very well without Javascript. In my opinion/experience it's better to create a page in a fully usable form without javascript first. Then write a nicer/flashier/*er interface in non-intrusive javascript ( i.e. not inline javscript on elements but in a seperate .js file )

Don't forget to include a friendly reminder "This page has features that require javascript" for the paranoid freakjobs who have javascript off ).

I see that you're pulling in: Prototype - from GoogleAPIs, YUI - from YahooAPIs, Tab.js - from Uservoice ( Who I've never heard of )

As a Tinfoil hat wearing NoScript user that's alot for me click allow on and seems very messy.

Surely all the functionality you use/need/want could be provided by Prototype OR YUI ( or my favourites Mootools or jQuery )

On the design front. Please, please, please get rid of those Image Headings that look like they're from cooltext.com in favour of a Text Header and a Text Link. The Black Border around the whole site probably isn't winning you any friends and the text layout needs some fixing.

For the section about installing the bookmarklet I would: Put a heading on it like "Get Started Now!". Change the tense of "Help me" to "Need help installing?". use a border/background-color/different font to separate it better, although a heading could do this. Align the top of it with the top of something else.

Re: Ask HN: Launched my free app, now what?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense taken :) I'm a back-end programmer without much UI experience. I was trying for a simplistic layout. Any specific suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!

The page doesn't work very well without Javascript. In my opinion/experience it's better to create a page in a fully usable form without javascript first. Then write a nicer/flashier/*er interface in non-intrusive javascript ( i.e. not inline javscript on elements but in a seperate .js file ) Don't forget to include a friendly reminder "This page has features that require javascript" for the paranoid freakjobs who ha…

Nice point about the page not working without Javascript - making it friendlier to those with it turned off.

UserVoice is a customer service site. I'm seeing it used more often and I really like the features. The JS for UserVoice on this page is for the Feedback tab on the right.

I use YUI for layout, buttons and tab controls. I don't think Prototype would help here - however perhaps YUI may have features that could cover the Prototype I use.

Ha! The logo was from cooltext.com Perhaps I need a disclaimer on the page saying that this page was designed by a programming hacker with no sense of style :)

You don't like the black border? That was one of the pieces I actually thought looked nice :(

I definitely got the hint though about the page being ugly. I agree. Please try the bookmarklet though. Of the 5 or so months of part-time effort, 99.9% went into the back-end and .1% on the front page. Yeah - guess I need a homepage facelift ...

Why so much time on the back-end? Catalyst had a big learning curve for me, and I was trying to design a flexible platform.

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