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Re: 280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

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dang wrote: post #740
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> This site infuriates me sometimes at the complete and utter lack of understanding of most of the United States Most of the US in what capacity? Square miles? Because the majority of the population lives in Cities. I love reading comments like yours. All throughout this thread you've vehemently argued that your perspective is the right one. It's a reminder to me that close minded people like you actually exist! You'…

You broke the site guidelines egregiously here. I've already scolded the other user in a different context, but it's not ok to break the rules regardless of how wrong/provocative another comment is or you feel it is. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

I'll do better next time, thanks for the call out.

Re: 280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

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webdood90 wrote: post #751
dang wrote: post #740

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You broke the site guidelines egregiously here. I've already scolded the other user in a different context, but it's not ok to break the rules regardless of how wrong/provocative another comment is or you feel it is. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

I'll do better next time, thanks for the call out.

Appreciated!

Re: 280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

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Post by tomcar288 »

analog31 wrote: post #401
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I spent almost an entire year e-biking to work 7 miles and back 7 miles. I can tell you, all the issues you mentioned are correct. I think, if we had dedicated bike lanes that were away from the main roads, at least we can address the safety issue. that would go a long way towards getting me back to commuting on an e-bike. One more big issue for bikes is the cost of it. I've commuted almost 1100 miles on my ebike and…

That's like 30 bucks per flat! But given your original tires will certainly wear out, start researching puncture resistant tires now. And a patch kit. ;-)

I'm able to fix the front flat tires much more cheaply: just the cost of the inner tube about 6$. but the flat tires happen most frequently in the rear.

the problem is I can't remove the rear wheel myself because the frame doesn't fit perfectly. so, it's nearly impossible to remove the rear wheel unless you're really talented mechanically.

Re: 280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

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Post by soperj »

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Majority of my time commuting the bike wins every time, mostly because I'm commuting at the same time as everyone else.

Not an option any more when you need to start dropping kids off at school first - not to mention the weather and safety.

I drop my kids off at school on the way. They bike too. Started with a trail-a-bike, and now they are their own bikes and I bike with them to school on my way.

Re: 280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

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Post by q1w2 »

soperj wrote: post #754
q1w2 wrote: post #595

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Not an option any more when you need to start dropping kids off at school first - not to mention the weather and safety.

I drop my kids off at school on the way. They bike too. Started with a trail-a-bike, and now they are their own bikes and I bike with them to school on my way.

I bet you live in a different climate than me. ...and your kids are likely older. These factors matter dramatically.

Re: 280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

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Post by PaulHoule »

camgunz wrote: post #83

I've said it before and I'll say it again: building the future around cars of any kind is completely unsustainable. We cannot reproduce the rates of rich world car ownership in the developing world without mass catastrophe (raw materials/labor needed for construction and maintenance, raw materials/labor/space needed for roads and parking lots, literal tons of waste--batteries, tires, steel, plastic, foam--, energy ne…

The trouble with trains is they are unresponsive to people’s needs. The #1 problem w/ trains in Europe is they are frequently two or three times the cost of air travel. So long as that is the case Europe has a carbon problem. I guess you could make air travel three times as expensive but isn’t the answer, if you don’t want far-right populist parties to take over, to get the cost of rail down?

In the U.S. we have almost forgotten the memory of resentment against railroads (eg. the word “railroading”) who would build tracks past your town but no station, instead they’d build the stationa few miles up the track where they owned all the land and could take all the profit of rising real estate values.

No wonder people were in such a hurry to tear up all the old railroad right of way as soon as they had the opportunity.

This sci-fi novel

https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250883001/theterraformers

spins a scenario where people who can’t imagine they can afford to eat meat (kinda ridiculous when they can 3-d print organisms and have enough energy to spare to drive plate tectonics) reject the idea of building a planetary transit system based on rail because: doesn’t the current generation get to decide where they go and not have that decision forced on them?

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