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Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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I am so happy that I can barely contain myself. Hopefully this means Flash will now be used for important things, instead of shoving ads in my face that I can't dismiss, and follow my scroll bar.

You say that now, but just wait until they're written in JS+Canvas and enormously more difficult to block.

Or CSS3?

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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Quite a lot of webpages need js to initialize themselves, these days, and I want them to load in background when I middleclick on a link. You probably want (at least some) websites to perform XHR when not focused (to update a news stream or something). I find an opt-in behavior on such a common feature a bit to hard, as a lot of website rely on that. setTimout and friends are throttled (at least in Firefox) to fire a…

Actually, I'd only white-list Gmail and maybe Twitter. I'd prefer it if most site just served HTML to begin with. I run with JavaScript and Cookies disabled unless white-listed, and just leave the majority of pages that won't load. Techcrunch, Engadget, and most news sites are so much faster without JS. I might be ok with a timeout - after 30 seconds of no interaction from me, suspend the tab. Would that address your…

So you're that <1% with their JS turned off. We knew you were out there somewhere.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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I welcome this move, despite the possibility of some fallout from the change. It'll be painful, but even as someone who once made a living writing ActionScript, I have to say that Flash is sufficiently annoying and insecure that it really needs to be phased out. In the short term, this will probably cause some breakage in certain sites that try to use Flash "transparently" and "unobtrusively" for things like LSOs, dr…

As an alternative, rather than requiring that all Flash shims have some sort of screen real-estate of their own to overlay a click-to-play control onto, perhaps hidden embedded Flash (or Java, or ActiveX, or whatever) objects could request the browser to prompt for their activation with an information bar.

Chrome does it somewhat unobtrusively by sticking an icon in the URL bar: http://cl.ly/3I1q3k0X0R1I2G2X1p1S

Works great.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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If only Chrome did this with it's current click to play implementation

It does, though not with the same UI as the Java plugin: http://i.imgur.com/xHrRX.png Clicking the puzzle piece shows a menu to "always allow" or to "enable all Flash applets on this page" (and a few other things). I can see a more obtrusive/apparent UI being implemented if Firefox makes click-to-Flash default.

That's not the same interface that I was referring to. I was talking about this: http://i.imgur.com/8lzif.png

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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If only Chrome did this with it's current click to play implementation

It does, though not with the same UI as the Java plugin: http://i.imgur.com/xHrRX.png Clicking the puzzle piece shows a menu to "always allow" or to "enable all Flash applets on this page" (and a few other things). I can see a more obtrusive/apparent UI being implemented if Firefox makes click-to-Flash default.

A problem I found with Chrome's current implementation is on pages where you don't even know flash is being used, Google Translate and Soundcloud for example, after thinking the site was broken I remembered I had click-to-enable active.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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I am so happy that I can barely contain myself. Hopefully this means Flash will now be used for important things, instead of shoving ads in my face that I can't dismiss, and follow my scroll bar.

Seriously? You are that annoyed with Flash and still don't know about FlashBlock?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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Cross domain XHR shouldn't be an issue as you only really need flash for it in IE 6 and 7.

I assume you are suggesting CORS as an alternative. Unfortunately, some APIs (e.g. StackExchange) implement crossdomain.xml but not CORS.

I was thinking of postMessage, I haven't used CORS before but it looks like it ends up giving the same kind of outcome. In my case though I control the server have have the JS on 3rd parties so it is the reverse to what you are saying.
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