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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by nostromo »

TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #88

Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…

GPUs run on cash, not goodwill. AI researchers also run on cash -- they have plenty of options and an organization needs to be able to reward them to keep them motivated and working.

OpenAI is only what it is because of its commercial wing. It's not too different from the Mozilla Foundation, which would be instantly dead without their commercial subsidiary.

I would much rather OpenAI survives this and continues to thrive -- rather than have Microsoft or Google own the AI future.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by boringg »

highduc wrote: post #24
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #6

Folks who do not have the wisdom to see the consequences of their actions 3 days out, are building AGI. God help us all.

Scientists are easily blindsided by psychos dealing with enormous amounts of money and power. They also happen to suck at politics.

100%. Technical staff rarely have exceptional political awareness and that seems to be the case this weekend. To be fair we don't know what triggered everything so while the dust settles this position may change.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by brokencode »

TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #88

Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…

How do we know the mission got thrown out a window? The board still, after days of intense controversy, have yet to clearly explain how Altman was betraying the mission.

Did he ignore safety? Did he defund important research? Did he push forward on projects against direct objections from the board?

If there’s a good reason, then let everybody know what that is. If there isn’t, then what was the point of all this?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by te_chris »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #113
te_chris wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why be a sexist dick about it? Is she not her own person with her own credentials? She can fail on her own terms just fine it seems.

What? The owner of Quora is even worse. Literally one of the worst sites on the web and he's on the board somehow.

If you can’t see that reducing her to being her husband’s wife is sexism then I can’t help you.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by SonOfLilit »

mongol wrote: post #58

This is entertaining in a way, and interesting to follow. But should I, as an ordinary member of mankind, root for one outcome or another? Is it going to matter for me how this ends up? Will AI be more or less safe one or other way, will it be bad for competition, prices, etc etc?

The outcome that is good for humanity, assuming Ilya is right to worry about AI safety, is already buried in the ground. You should care and shed a single tear for the difficulty of coordination.

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Post by rvbissell »

rvz wrote: post #38

Given that Ilya switched sides now, it leaves with 3 BOD members that are at the helm. The one that is really overlooked in this case is the CEO of Quora, Adam D'Angelo, who has a competing interest with Poe and Quora that he sunk his own money into it which ChatGPT and GPTs makes his platform irrelevant. So why isn't anyone here talking about the conflict of interest with Adam D'Angelo as one of the board members wh…

I've seen it mentioned several times here, over the course of the weekend.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

paulddraper wrote: post #18

As of 10am PT, 700 of 770 employees have signed the call for board resignation. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/joannejang/status/1726667504133808242

Surprisingly, Ilya apparently has signed it too and just tweeted that he regrets it all.

What's even going on?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Post by UrineSqueegee »

imperialdrive wrote: post #66
paulddraper wrote: post #18

As of 10am PT, 700 of 770 employees have signed the call for board resignation. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/joannejang/status/1726667504133808242

Their app was timing out like crazy earlier this morning, and now appears to be down. Anyone else notice similar? Not surprising I guess, but what a Monday to be alive.

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