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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Folks who do not have the wisdom to see the consequences of their actions 3 days out, are building AGI. God help us all.

Scientists are easily blindsided by psychos dealing with enormous amounts of money and power. They also happen to suck at politics.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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post #11

Waiting for the timeline where he both tries to return as CEO and take the job at MS.

He could do both, like Jack Dorsey or Elon. It would be a bit different because of how stuff is going from OpenAI to Microsoft but that can of worms is already open.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Folks who do not have the wisdom to see the consequences of their actions 3 days out, are building AGI. God help us all.

Longtermism strikes again! Somehow the future is considered more important to think about than the steps we need to take today to reach that future. Or any future, really.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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A few things come to mind: * Emmett Shear should have put in a strong golden parachute in his contract, easy money if so * Yesterday we had Satya the genius forcing the board to quit. This morning it was Satya the genius who acquired OpenAI for $0. Im sure there will be more if sama goes back. So if sama goes back - lets hear it, why is Satya a genius?

Even if Sam @ MSFT was a massive bluff, Satya is in a win-win-win scenario. OpenAI can't exactly continue doing anything without Azure Compute.

OpenAI implodes? Bought the talent for virtually nothing.

OpenAI 2.0 succeeds? Cool, still invested.

I think in reality, Sam @ MSFT is not an instant success. Even with the knowledge and know-how, this isn't just spinning up a new GPT-4-like model. At best, they're ~12 months behind Anthropic (but probably still 2 years ahead of Google).

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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I couldn’t make up a more ridiculous plot even if I tried. At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if Musk got involved. It’s already ridiculous enough, why not.

Hey I've seen this one, it's a rerun

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/24/23654701/openai-elon-musk...

- "But by early 2018, says Semafor, Musk was worried the company was falling behind Google. He reportedly offered to take direct control of OpenAI and run it himself but was rejected by other OpenAI founders including Sam Altman, now the firm’s CEO, and Greg Brockman, now its president."

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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post #2

A few things come to mind: * Emmett Shear should have put in a strong golden parachute in his contract, easy money if so * Yesterday we had Satya the genius forcing the board to quit. This morning it was Satya the genius who acquired OpenAI for $0. Im sure there will be more if sama goes back. So if sama goes back - lets hear it, why is Satya a genius?

I believe a precondition for Sam and Greg returning to OpenAI is that the board gets restructured (decelerationists culled). That is probably good for MSFT.

But probably better for Sam to stay with OpenAI right? More power leading your own firm than being an employee of MSFT

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

#30

Folks who do not have the wisdom to see the consequences of their actions 3 days out, are building AGI. God help us all.

> are building AGI Well, probably not anymore.

they were never any closer to building AGI than they were to inventing a perpetual motion machine
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