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Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

#41

I am so happy that I can barely contain myself. Hopefully this means Flash will now be used for important things, instead of shoving ads in my face that I can't dismiss, and follow my scroll bar.

You say that now, but just wait until they're written in JS+Canvas and enormously more difficult to block.

They'll still be iframes or external scripts. Ads will always be trivial to block.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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post #35

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To take care of the invisible Flash object problem, Firefox could copy what Chrome does for Java applets and have a bar pop up at the top of the whole page, asking if you want to allow Flash to run on the site in question.

If only Chrome did this with it's current click to play implementation

Chrome has a click-to-play implementation for Flash? That is not a plugin? Do I have to go to chrome://flags or something?

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

#44

I welcome this move, despite the possibility of some fallout from the change. It'll be painful, but even as someone who once made a living writing ActionScript, I have to say that Flash is sufficiently annoying and insecure that it really needs to be phased out. In the short term, this will probably cause some breakage in certain sites that try to use Flash "transparently" and "unobtrusively" for things like LSOs, dr…

For this feature, there will also be an option to enable plugins for websites that have them hidden such as Pandora. And in addition it will be possible to whitelist/blacklist websites.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

#45
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To take care of the invisible Flash object problem, Firefox could copy what Chrome does for Java applets and have a bar pop up at the top of the whole page, asking if you want to allow Flash to run on the site in question.

If only Chrome did this with it's current click to play implementation

It does, though not with the same UI as the Java plugin: http://i.imgur.com/xHrRX.png

Clicking the puzzle piece shows a menu to "always allow" or to "enable all Flash applets on this page" (and a few other things).

I can see a more obtrusive/apparent UI being implemented if Firefox makes click-to-Flash default.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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post #43
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only Chrome did this with it's current click to play implementation

Chrome has a click-to-play implementation for Flash? That is not a plugin? Do I have to go to chrome://flags or something?

Yes.

Preferences > Under the Hood > Privacy > Content Settings > Plug-ins > Click to play

Or you can search for "Flash" or "Click to play" to find the setting.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

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post #45
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only Chrome did this with it's current click to play implementation

It does, though not with the same UI as the Java plugin: http://i.imgur.com/xHrRX.png Clicking the puzzle piece shows a menu to "always allow" or to "enable all Flash applets on this page" (and a few other things). I can see a more obtrusive/apparent UI being implemented if Firefox makes click-to-Flash default.

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Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

#49
Oh man, bad memories. I used to get so frustrated with Internet Explorer* for doing this about 7 years ago. I was young then, 12 or 13, and had just gotten Flash for my birthday. I know it had to be 2004 or 2005 because the version was Flash MX 2004. I was young enough and it was long enough ago that I think I was using Internet Explorer primarily, and got terrible frustrated when they started using this default click-to-play behavior on my Flash creations. How dare they! It took me long enough to figure out how to embed them (I remember I tried using the tag with a .swf file. HAHA!)

It was something to do with an "ActiveX control," I don't remember anymore. But you should have seen how angry it made 13-year-old-me, because my loud, annoying Flash creations had to be allowed their obnoxiousness by every user. Anyway, the point is I approve. :)

* I'm pretty sure it was IE, could be remembering wrong.

Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox

#50
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This is great, really, but I'd like to see something more aggressive: Non-foreground tabs should be completely suspended - plugins, JavaScript, media, you name it - unless they specifically request and are granted permission to run in the background.

Eh, that would get annoying if it was the default behavior. I like to think I have self-control and know how to run Chrome without eating up my RAM or CPU. I don't need this sort of moderation. I don't think most do. I think I would hate it if JS stopped running in the background.

Flash files are worth silencing by default because you don't usually come to the website for them. They're largely unwanted web rodents.

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