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Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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I’m a Vim guy and I’m very impressed with VS Copilot, but: - Not enough to switch (yet, at least) - I would have to carefully review the generated code, which is not as fun writing The license issue is something I expect will be solved in the next few years (a dropdown menu to choose from, maybe).

You can use copilot with vim, no problem.

Yes, original copilot, but not new copilot with expanded features. I'm a vim person and wold rather give up copilot than move to vs code, so I do hope they aren't going to leave vim behind and focus only on vs code moving forward.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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While watching the video I was also thinking "just like Adobe's stuff". Many of the Photoshop users will ask themselves why they should continue to pay them, if the evolution continues this way. Nice to see. Sure, Krita is not Photoshop, but for the tasks certain creators will be doing in the next decade, they won't have a need for Photoshop anymore. Interesting to see that the video is 2 months old.

> they won't have a need for Photoshop anymore. That is already true for not just Photoshop, but for almost any kind of proprietary software. If you are willing to embrace the caveats and DIY nature of FOSS, for almost every task FOSS Software is good enough (and sometimes better than proprietary). I think one of the major reasons of popularity of proprietary software vs FOSS is marketing.

> FOSS Software is good enough

2d CAD drafting is still lacking a bit

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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Huh, I wasn't aware Krita was a thing. As a software engineer that rarely needs image editing Gimp was my go to software. Why there is a second open source image editing software now?

Gimp has a notoriously unusable UI. I think that's honestly probably the main reason. I'm actually more confused by the converse: why do people keep using and recommending Gimp when Krita has existed for decades and is so much easier to use?

For simple image editing with an easy UI, I use Pinta. If I need more advanced features, I need GIMP. I've never really found a use case for Krita personally.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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"As far as I know there's a sizeable number of devs who don't intend to ever rely on copilot" Is that really a thing? I mean, I also don't want to rely on Microsoft and therefore also not on Copilot, but not using AI tools in general out of principle is probably a very rare minority. I simply would prefer my own local LLM. But in the thread linked above I read "AI never had and never will have it’s place in art." And…

Yes, that's a thing, I'm one of those people. While impressive, the two issues I have with codepilot and other AI tools are: 1. The code is usually the same code I'd get a few web searches away, except then it would have the appropriate copyright. As a FOSS developer (in my free time), I do not want to risk using code I don't have a license for, and thus dirtying up my entire project and putting it in danger of being…

3. To be truly useful, you have to send your company's proprietary code to a 3rd-party AI, which may or may not use it for training their AI, or which may or may not have security issues and leak your proprietary code. Yes, we do this already with GitHub/GitLab, etc. but those are mature and (AFAIK) haven't had big security issues like OpenAI has had in the past year. 4. For ChatGPT at least, you have to give them your phone number to sign up. For me this is a deal-breaker, but I get others are fine with it.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#145

Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

Which is kind of funny in a way. I am no artist but I'm using Krita with a smallish Wacom tablet to manually refine illustrations generated by Stable Diffusion.

But again, some of the Krita team have had strong ideological positions on many themes. Luckily you can keep using the software whether you agree or not (and you can contribute, too).

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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The problem with many technophiles is that they have a very distorted view of what they create. They often think it's going to do good because it's so cool but once that tech is out in the real world, it just mostly causes damage. If you're interested, feel free to reach out to me because I am starting an anti-AI coalition.

Out of curiosity can you just give me pratical example of: "it's so cool but once that tech is out in the real world, it just mostly causes damage."

Social media.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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IMO all of this will blow over in a few years and most artists will accept that "AI" is just another tool that one can use to create art. It took some time for photography as well... edit: typo

Most professional artists will be unemployed and hobbyist artists using AI seems to be kind of against the point of creating art for the art of creation. But for one-click self-expression, AI tools will certainly come in handy.

The dawn of the post-work age! C : .. nearly everyone will become unemployed five years from now (when AGI / humanoid robots hit mainstream adoption). The economical paradigm will have to change inevitably. Now it's on us to nudge it towards a nice and chill open source economy with open access infrastructure and cybersyn-like global federated resource stream coordination instead of the competitive vortex of death, madness & despair we have now.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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IMO all of this will blow over in a few years and most artists will accept that "AI" is just another tool that one can use to create art. It took some time for photography as well... edit: typo

This is absolutely ridiculous and short-sighted. AI is a tool that is and always will make the creation of art less a matter of the expression of the human soul. What techies NEVER understand about art is this: that art is not just the end product for the artist but something they use to express THEMSELVES. UNLIKE other tools, AI makes creative decisions. No other tool has done this, and moreover, its primary purpose…

Wait till "THEY" learn engineering and architecture ; )

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

The AI hate is suuuch a meme in the art community, it's very frustrating/alienating. (Though understandably, neoliberal capitalism is also extremely frustrating, so I see why artists mad, I just wish they'd be mad at the root cause.) ((the root cause is that an economic system fundamentally based on scarcity == value doesn't make sense when applied to things that are essentially infinite, and kludgeing in artificial…

It is not just in the art community: check the currently top post and see how many devs are saying they would never use AI on their work. They hate and are alienated as much as any artist.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

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post #84

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It’s more just ridiculous because the same community is completely fine with photobashing and “paint overs” (aka tracing) and “fan art” (aka profiting from IP you don’t own).

I don't know what sort of artists you know, but of all the artists I know, nobody is "completely fine" with tracing. It is okay but still frowned upon when people do it for "practice" without publishing the result, but anything that even looks remotely like it is traced gets called out and further investigated incredibly quickly. And as for fan art, a lot of companies explicitly allow art based on their IP, as long a…

Tracing is particularly unacceptable in professional settings. There’s been several cases, some even somewhat high profile, where manga and comic artists have found themselves in hot water as a result of engaging in the practice.
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