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Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#111

From reddit discussion ( https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9... ): > To clarify it more, it's simply this code in their polymer script link: > setTimeout(function() { c(); a.resolve(1) }, 5E3); > which doesn't do anything except making you wait 5s (5E3 = 5000ms = 5s). You can search for it easily in https://www.youtube.com/s/desktop/96766c85/jsbin/desktop_pol...

I'm not even mad about Google making my artificially wait 5s for using firefox. I'm mad that such a big company with suposelly decent engineers, are making me wait 5s with literally a sleep, how is even possible to do such thing in such a rudimentary way? I would be like damn that was smart, this feels like, seriously this is the level?

follow the money

employees will follow orders, orders are made by people who control the money

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#112
lol, I think this ended up being one of several factors that made me switch to firefox (now vivaldi).

The "extra chance to consider your life choices and do you really want to watch this video" was a feature not a bug.

Plus now tiktok and telegram are orders of magnitude more popular than YT. Im seeing more and more creators arrive on YT as their "second choice" platform.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#113
https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/marketing-strategies/app-and...

Seems odd to do something so brazen while also publishing information that (could) prove intent.

Google also modifies how business information can be accessed from Firefox Mobile. You can't read reviews easily from Firefox Mobile. At least not my install.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#114
I don't use firefox but have noticed a strange delay occurring during the past day or two. Wondering if it's coincidence. I use ublock origin, so maybe youtube's detecting its presence somehow and forcing a delay? (ublock is up to date so I don't get the message from youtube telling me to stop using adblockers - perhaps this is their next attempt to annoy people into paying/allowing ads?).

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO, this kind of things are not done by engineers. * Marketing/Sales asks engineers to add a feature flag to sleep N milliseconds for their research: "how slowing down impacts your revenue" * engineer adds a flag, with different control parameters * Some genius in Product figures this out and updates the experiment to slow down for competitors When company gets a backlash from public: "oops, we forgot to clean up a…

> * Marketing/Sales asks engineers to add a feature flag to sleep N milliseconds for their research: "how slowing down impacts your revenue" “Research”

They have done such research before, Google published this at a time when developers were all "100 ms more or less web load time doesn't matter". Since then webpages has gotten much more focused on performance.

https://blog.research.google/2009/06/speed-matters.html

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something related to this which I find extremely frustrating is that I'm capable of watching a 4k video in my browser just fine. So if I decide to buy or rent a movie on youtube, they can only be played back at 420p. Apparently this is due to DRM restrictions, but the frustrating part is that you can pay extra money for the HD version and there's nothing telling you about this not being supported in your browser unti…

Netflix does the same thing. Actually, speaking of infuriating corporate bullshit, allow me to go on a rant about Netflix and subtitles. They give you the option to choose between like four, maybe five languages. That's it! If you want subtitles in any of the other hundred or so languages that they have available, well... no. Just no. Learn one of the four they've picked for you. If you call their support, they'll ga…

is it still a thing that you have to use Edge on windows to get 4k HDR, but you can't on Chrome?

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#118

Oh, and they also falsely show "4K" in the video quality icon, but "accidentally" play a 720p or even worse quality stream. If you manually select the 4K stream quality, then and only then will YouTube deign to show 4K to you.

Something related to this which I find extremely frustrating is that I'm capable of watching a 4k video in my browser just fine. So if I decide to buy or rent a movie on youtube, they can only be played back at 420p. Apparently this is due to DRM restrictions, but the frustrating part is that you can pay extra money for the HD version and there's nothing telling you about this not being supported in your browser unti…

Buy a movie on YT or DVD, and then... watch a torrented version? This isn't the future we were promised, but it sure is the future we have.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#119
post #95

From reddit discussion ( https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9... ): > To clarify it more, it's simply this code in their polymer script link: > setTimeout(function() { c(); a.resolve(1) }, 5E3); > which doesn't do anything except making you wait 5s (5E3 = 5000ms = 5s). You can search for it easily in https://www.youtube.com/s/desktop/96766c85/jsbin/desktop_pol...

Is the use of the "E" notation common in JS? I can see that it (could be) less bytes, obviously more efficient for bigger values... Looking at the script I can see it is minified or whatever we call that these days. I guess my question really is: did someone write "5E3" or did the minifier choose it? (Sorry this is heading into the weeds, but I'm not really a web developer so maybe someone can tell me!)

I wonder if this actually decreases the byte over wire. 5000 compresses a lot better.... sorry for OT

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#120
I've recently done a pc upgrade and am now enjoying 64 gigs of ram. Decided to watch a live stream on youtube this weekend.

Firefox: 22 GB of ram usage for the youtube tab after ~15 minutes. Tab became unresponsive.

Edge: Out of memory error after ~5 minutes.

Chrome: working fine, the youtube tab sitting peacefully ay 400-600 MB.

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