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Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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post #29

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Without studying the minified code I wouldn't assume malice just yet, this could be just an inexperienced developer trying to lazily fix some browser-specific bug, or something that accidentally made it to production like you say

You think they let inexperienced developers touch the YT code base without proper code review? Even if that were the case, which is an extremely charitable assumption, that itself would be malice in my opinion.

lol

This reply is for everyone who has ever worked on the codebase...

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Just install adblocker?

Or Freetube / Newpipe

no need to go that extreme, the fix is to just update ublock orgins filters

Go into ublock origin addon > click filter lists > purge all caches then update now

all done

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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I'm not even mad about Google making my artificially wait 5s for using firefox. I'm mad that such a big company with suposelly decent engineers, are making me wait 5s with literally a sleep, how is even possible to do such thing in such a rudimentary way? I would be like damn that was smart, this feels like, seriously this is the level?

IMHO, this kind of things are not done by engineers. * Marketing/Sales asks engineers to add a feature flag to sleep N milliseconds for their research: "how slowing down impacts your revenue" * engineer adds a flag, with different control parameters * Some genius in Product figures this out and updates the experiment to slow down for competitors When company gets a backlash from public: "oops, we forgot to clean up a…

"oops" https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has...

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Just install adblocker?

Meh.. I could but I have to tolerate them on TV anyway. I may look to install pi-hole one day.

Pi hole doesn't help, but there are various Android TV apps that do block ads. I still prefer the Roku eco system but I switched after they started putting ads in the middle of music videos.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#65

If you are fluent with the terminal, you don't need to suffer from the YT Web UI. Install mpv and yt-dlp. Play videos like this: mpv [--no-video] "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9zVjEZ7W8Q" Option in brackets is optional.

One feature it lacks is seek bar previews. There are thumbnail scripts but they don't use the available youtube thumbnails.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#66

While the EU has recently forced Microsoft to allow users to uninstall pre-installed crapware, Google is apparently unhindered in their ongoing (and succeeding) mission to take control of all layers of the consumer-facing internet.

For now. Google is working on making a premium internet based on their services that permeate the whole web which they plan to serve only to "trusted devices" running Chrome - I do not think this is going to work out well for them.

I hope not, but I suspect they will succeed. My observation is that the vast majority of people around me here in Europe see Google as completely trustworthy.

It's truly profound how split-second loading delays contribute to a negative impression about digital products. I guess we're all worn out from using our devices. Most of us just want "thing" ASAP, and we'll compulsively click 'agree' to anything that happens to stand in the way of it.

'Why don't you switch to Chrome, it works better/faster.' is not the sort of social pressure I can quickly respond to with my privacy concerns. And it's not like I'm not going to get an eye-roll or tin-foil-man comments from the mom-pop-type people in my life.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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IMHO, this kind of things are not done by engineers. * Marketing/Sales asks engineers to add a feature flag to sleep N milliseconds for their research: "how slowing down impacts your revenue" * engineer adds a flag, with different control parameters * Some genius in Product figures this out and updates the experiment to slow down for competitors When company gets a backlash from public: "oops, we forgot to clean up a…

> * Marketing/Sales asks engineers to add a feature flag to sleep N milliseconds for their research: "how slowing down impacts your revenue" “Research”

Researching how best to fuck with your competitors.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#68
post #39

I have a hard time believing that's actually what's happening. If they wanted to slow down other browsers, why would they choose this easily discoverable way? They could have easily slowed down serving of JS files (and other assets) based on the user agent to a similar effect. It seems more likely this is just a debug snippet that has made it into production by accident.

If I was working at Google and I was tasked with doing that, I'd half ass it too

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Just install adblocker?

Meh.. I could but I have to tolerate them on TV anyway. I may look to install pi-hole one day.

If you have an Android TV, You can use SmartTube[1] that has Adblock + Sponsorblock

[1] https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

#70
post #29

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Without studying the minified code I wouldn't assume malice just yet, this could be just an inexperienced developer trying to lazily fix some browser-specific bug, or something that accidentally made it to production like you say

You think they let inexperienced developers touch the YT code base without proper code review? Even if that were the case, which is an extremely charitable assumption, that itself would be malice in my opinion.

> You think they let inexperienced developers touch the YT code base without proper code review?

Yes

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