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Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#11

> AMD GPU: supported via DirectML, Windows only Uh... I'm not happy with this trend. Thankfully there is an option for using a ComfyUI, a torch based project as a backend.

That's not a trend that's basically the norm for generative ai and AMD is to blame for it not the devs.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#12

> AMD GPU: supported via DirectML, Windows only Uh... I'm not happy with this trend. Thankfully there is an option for using a ComfyUI, a torch based project as a backend.

Is it a trend, already? I mean I can get behind ambition, but jesus, everything is new, people are cooking. Let's give it a few month.

It's always been a trend and always will be until AMD gets their shit together. NV spends a lot to make sure CUDA has the market share it does (marketing, establishing a foothold in academia, partnerships etc), AMD is working on it but progress is slow.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#13

Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

The AI hate is suuuch a meme in the art community, it's very frustrating/alienating. (Though understandably, neoliberal capitalism is also extremely frustrating, so I see why artists mad, I just wish they'd be mad at the root cause.)

((the root cause is that an economic system fundamentally based on scarcity == value doesn't make sense when applied to things that are essentially infinite, and kludgeing in artificial scarcity to make things work is not a good take))

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#14

> AMD GPU: supported via DirectML, Windows only Uh... I'm not happy with this trend. Thankfully there is an option for using a ComfyUI, a torch based project as a backend.

I'm on mobile and haven't looked at this project, but usually DirectML support is added as a torch backend. Instead of device = "cuda" if torch.cuda.is_available() else "cpu" you add import torch_directml device = torch_directml.device()

How else are you supposed to support AMD in Pytorch on Windows?

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#15

Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

The AI hate is suuuch a meme in the art community, it's very frustrating/alienating. (Though understandably, neoliberal capitalism is also extremely frustrating, so I see why artists mad, I just wish they'd be mad at the root cause.) ((the root cause is that an economic system fundamentally based on scarcity == value doesn't make sense when applied to things that are essentially infinite, and kludgeing in artificial…

It’s more just ridiculous because the same community is completely fine with photobashing and “paint overs” (aka tracing) and “fan art” (aka profiting from IP you don’t own).

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it a trend, already? I mean I can get behind ambition, but jesus, everything is new, people are cooking. Let's give it a few month.

It's always been a trend and always will be until AMD gets their shit together. NV spends a lot to make sure CUDA has the market share it does (marketing, establishing a foothold in academia, partnerships etc), AMD is working on it but progress is slow.

It’s not that NV spends a lot to get market share. It’s that for over a decade NV provided the actual tools to build all this and AMD didn’t and then when they finally did they fumbled it, then when it finally paid off big for Nvidia they had to start from scratch again.

People might not like it but Nvidia’s dominance is completely deserved from the actions, or should I say inactions of the now disbanded OpenCL crowd

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#17

Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

The AI hate is suuuch a meme in the art community, it's very frustrating/alienating. (Though understandably, neoliberal capitalism is also extremely frustrating, so I see why artists mad, I just wish they'd be mad at the root cause.) ((the root cause is that an economic system fundamentally based on scarcity == value doesn't make sense when applied to things that are essentially infinite, and kludgeing in artificial…

> it's very frustrating/alienating

Mm. I’ve spoken to a number of artists who have expressed similar feelings of despair, frustration and anger.

There are many upset people over this technology, and calling it a meme diminishes them to meaningless copycat haters.

I don’t think that’s true; and doing it, really reallllly makes them angry.

Consider: this attitude it part of the reason why that attitude exists.

:|

If the stable diffusion folk hadn’t gone crazy cloning every art style they could and laughing about it, we could all have had a very different AI art future.

…but apparently we can’t have nice things because (some) people suck.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#18

Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

The AI hate is suuuch a meme in the art community, it's very frustrating/alienating. (Though understandably, neoliberal capitalism is also extremely frustrating, so I see why artists mad, I just wish they'd be mad at the root cause.) ((the root cause is that an economic system fundamentally based on scarcity == value doesn't make sense when applied to things that are essentially infinite, and kludgeing in artificial…

Yet this terrible economic system you describe determines whether these people can afford food, rent and their children's education.

Yeah it must be a meme.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#19

Somewhat tangential, but the Krita community and core team have been pretty explicitly anti-AI. https://krita-artists.org/t/change-in-policy-for-topics-rela... (I am part of a group that builds UI on top of open models, but we stopped working on our Krita version for that reason.)

I think at one point Krita will fork to two apps because of this exact reason. AI-based tools are clearly the next step of painting apps (to me at least, but I can't be the only one who believes in this).

I think in 3~5 years an painting app without AI generation feature is just like a painting app without pen pressure today. It's still usable, you can make great art with it if you have the skill, but it will be so out of fashion to a point it starts becoming cool again.

Re: Krita AI Diffusion

#20

> AMD GPU: supported via DirectML, Windows only Uh... I'm not happy with this trend. Thankfully there is an option for using a ComfyUI, a torch based project as a backend.

ComfyUI works perfectly fine with ROCm on Linux. Using it with this krita plugin also works flawlessly. The docs are simply incorrect in saying that it's Windows-only.

I assume it's the case because the automatic ComfyUI installer that comes with this project doesn't know how to install/configure ROCm. Using your own ComfyUI installation works perfectly. I'll open a ticket with the author of the project to discuss this.

Source: I installed this yesterday on my Ubuntu computer with a 7900xtx and ROCm in Comfy

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