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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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"I specifically say I’m in favor of slowing down, which is sort of like pausing except it’s slowing down. If we’re at a speed of 10 right now, a pause is reducing to 0. I think we should aim for a 1-2 instead." - Emmett Shear, Sep 16, 2023 https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1703178063306203397?t=8nHS...

Slowing down what exactly? This cryptic messages are like a slap in the face for their dev community

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Through all of this, no one has cogently explained why Altman leaving is such a big deal. Why would workers immediately quit their job when he has no other company, and does he even know who these workers are? Are these people that desperate to make a buck (or the prospect of big bucks)? It seems like half of the people working at the non-profit were not actually concerned about the mission but rather just waiting out their turn for big bucks and fame.

What does Altman bring to the table besides raising money from foreign governments and states, apparently? I just do not understand all of this. Like, how does him leaving and getting replaced by another CEO the next week really change anything at the ground level other than distractions from the mission being gone?

And the outpouring of support for someone who was clearly not operating how he marketed himself publicly is strange and disturbing indeed.

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HN! If I had a recorded phone call, emails and chats I thought it would be the better for the public to know about, how would I go ahead and share such in the best and most anonymous way?

First of all know that California is a two party consent state. You’d be putting yourself in grave legal danger if your identity could be inferred from a leaked recorded phone call.

Would that apply to an international call?

Not that I am encouraging the GP. I upvoted the “laaaaaaaawyer” comment.

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Death. The default consequence of AGI's arrival is doom. Aligning a super intelligence with our desires is a problem that no one has solved yet. "The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else." ---- Listen to Dwarkesh Podcast with Eliezer or Carl Shulman to know more about this.

I like science fiction too, but all of these potential scenarios seem so far removed from the low level realities of how these systems work. I'm not suggesting we don't see ASI in some distant future, maybe 100+ years away. But to suggest we're even within a decade of having ASI seems silly to me. Maybe there's research I haven't read, but as a daily user of AI, it's hilarious to think people are existentially concer…

> maybe 100+ years away

I have two toddlers. This is within their lifetimes no matter what. I think about this every day because it affects them directly. Some of the bad outcomes of ASI involve what’s called s-risk (“suffering risk”) which is the class of outcomes like the one depicted in The Matrix where humans do not go extinct but are subjugated and suffer. I will do anything to prevent that from happening to my children.

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I’m genuinely surprised that they stuck to their guns. The PR push behind Altman’s return was convincing enough that I had my doubts. Altman will be more than fine, he’ll get a bucket of money and the chance to prove he is the golden boy he’s been sold to the world. He will get to recruit a team that believes in his vision of accelerating AI for commercial use. This will lead to a more diverse market. I hope for the…

Same

If OpenAI ceases to be Sam’s vision someone will replace it.

It is a good thing for the ecosystem I guess, we will have more diverse products to choose.

But making AI more safe? Not likely. The tech will spread and Ilya will probably not a safer AGI, because he will not control it

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The one with the same name as the new CEO. Pretty straightforward. > Also lol "religious text", how dare people have didactic opinions. That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post. It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive.

Oh hey there he is, cool. I had a typo in my search, I think. > That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post. Yes, almost as if "Lesswrong is a community blog dedicated to refining the art of human rationality." > It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive. I don't think anybody either asked someb…

“The Sequences”? Yes, this doesn’t sound like a quasi-religious cult at all…

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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post #592

Through all of this, no one has cogently explained why Altman leaving is such a big deal. Why would workers immediately quit their job when he has no other company, and does he even know who these workers are? Are these people that desperate to make a buck (or the prospect of big bucks)? It seems like half of the people working at the non-profit were not actually concerned about the mission but rather just waiting ou…

stability.

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If this were true they never would have had talks to bring him back. That's the opposite of steadfast commitment to principles. If Sam wronged them or the company in a significant way they never should have let him back in the building. The board's decisions may or may not turn out to be correct in hindsight. But it's very difficult to say that this was a good example of leadership or decision making.

https://twitter.com/ashleevance/status/1726469283734274338 > So, here's what happened at OpenAI tonight. Mira planned to hire Sam and Greg back. She turned Team Sam over past couple of days. Idea was to force board to fire everyone, which they figured the board would not do. Board went into total silence. Found their own CEO Emmett Shear Written by the person who broke the story at Bloomberg. So it appears a single p…

Mira isn't on the OpenAI Board.

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So what? Humans only practice the arts? Humans go back to flinging poop? This meadow sounds awful, it seems like it’s asking for the end of thought and to be fed nutrient gel from a machine. Richard Brautigan has a terrible dream.

I always interpreted the overall tone of this one as sarcastic/parody rather than genuine or a literal interpretation of the words. But maybe a sign of good art is that it makes the observer think?
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