I'm really happy about this. Hopefully this sets OpenAI back on a course toward positive and open uses for AI. Maybe even properly open sourcing things again.
Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down
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In a dispute between people willing to sacrifice profit for values and those chasing the profit, why on earth would you put grifters on team values over profit?
I'm assuming the original comment meant that the grifters would not be extended a new offer after their colleagues learned that they were not as good as their CV said at open AI.
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#513HN!
If I had a recorded phone call, emails and chats I thought it would be the better for the public to know about, how would I go ahead and share such in the best and most anonymous way?
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What I think is funny is how the whole "we're just doing this to make sure AI is safe" meme breaks down, if you have OpenAI, Anthropic, and Altman AI all competing, which seems likely now. Do you really need all 3? Is each one going to claim that they're the only ones who can develop AGI safely? Since Sam left, now OpenAI is unsafe? But I thought they were the safe ones, and he was being reckless. Or is Sam just goin…
Can someone explain to me what they mean by "safe" AGI? I've looked in many places and everyone is extremely vague. Certainly no one is suggesting these systems can become "alive", so what exactly are we trying to remain safe from? Job loss?
Smart people like Ilya really are worried about extinction, not piddling near-term stuff like job loss or some chat app saying some stuff that will hurt someone's feelings.
The worry is not necessarily that the systems become "alive", though, we are already bad enough ourselves as a species in terms of motivation so machines don't need to supply the murderous intent: at any given moment there are at least thousands if not millions of people on the planet that would love nothing more than be able to push a button an murder millions of other people in some outgroup. That's very obvious if you pay even a little bit of attention to any of the Israel/Palestine hatred going back and forth lately. [There are probably at least hundreds to thousands that are insane enough to want to destroy all of humanity if they could, for that matter...] If AI becomes powerful enough to make it easy for a small group to kill large numbers of people that they hate, we are probably all going to end up dead, because almost all of us belong to a group that someone wants to exterminate.
Killing people isn't a super difficult problem, so I don't think you really even need AGI to get to that sort of an outcome, TBH, which is why I think a lot of the worry is misplaced. I think the sort of control systems that we could pretty easily build with the LLMs of today could very competently execute genocides if they were paired with suitably advanced robotics, it's the latter that is lacking. But in any case, the concern is that having even stronger AI, especially once it reliably surpasses us in every way, makes it even easier to imagine an effectively unstoppable extermination campaign that runs on its own and couldn't be stopped even by the people who started it up.
I personally think that stronger AI is also the solution and we're already too far down the cat-and-mouse rabbithole to pause the game (which some e/acc people believe as the main reason they want to push forward faster and make sure a good AI is the first one to really achieve full domination), but that's a different discussion.
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Question: how difficult is it to get that no retention waiver on prompts and responses?
Not difficult. I've not heard of anyone who asked and _didn't_ get the waiver. It's just a responsible stop-gap in case a user does something questionable or dangerous.
The waiver still allows for logging of prompts for the specific purpose of abuse monitoring for some limited retention period, right? How difficult is it to have this waived as well?
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#516The contrast between the media's depiction of today's events with this outcome demonstrates how much Sam and his aligned interests can influence a narrative. The vast majority of reporting indicated that Sam held all the leverage, the board members were about to be fired, and a new board would be appointed which would be much better aligned with Sam. These accounts took special care to portray the current board as in…
The board demonstrated their incompetency in how they fired Sam without communicating this decision to their biggest stakeholder, Microsoft, or with any clear transition plan in place.
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OpenAI has hundreds more employees, all of whom are incredibly smart. While they will definitely lose the leadership and talent of those two, it’s not as if a nuclear bomb dropped on their HQ and wiped out all their engineers! So questioning whether they will survive seems very silly and incredibly premature to me
Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter re-tweeted Sam Atlman's heart tweet with their own heart or some other supportive message. I'm sure that's a sign that they are all team Sam - this includes a ton of researchers you see on most papers that came out of OpenAI. That's a good chunk of their research team and that'd be a very big loss. Also there are tons of engineers (and I know a few of t…
The two most important to OpenAI's mission - Alec Radford and Ilya Sutskever - did not respond with a heart.
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#518I think Adam D'Angelo has a very strong conflict of interest and shouldn't have been on the board of OpenAI. I'm sure Quora views took a hit after ChatGPT. Not like Quora was any good before ChatGPT, they just managed to get to the top of Google results for a lot of common questions. Now, Poe by Quora was trying to go big on custom agents. The GPT Agents announcement on DevDay was a fundamental threat to Poe in many…
Don't forget Tasha McCauley's husband, Joseph Gordon Levitt, has been vocally anti-AI during the SAG-AFTRA strike, an event for which AI was a huge point of contention. It's a poisoned board.
What? Being vocally anti-AI for the purposes of respecting artists is not being anti-AI period.
There is nuance to this point.
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#519I still cannot process what’s happened to one of the most prominent and hyped companies of the past year in just one weekend. If it’s true that Altman won’t return to OpenAI (or alternatively: that the current board won’t step down) then where does that leave OpenAI? Microsoft can’t be happy, as evidenced by reporting that Nadella was acting as mediator to bring him back. Does OpenAI survive this? Will be super inter…
Can microsoft buy IP from openAI? recruit their engineers? asking for a friend
Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down
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Tip for builders: you can use the GPT APIs on Microsoft Azure. Managed reliably, nobody's quitting, no drama. Same APIs, just with better controls, global availability, and a very stable, reliable, and trustworthy provider. (disclosure: I work at Azure, but this is just my own observation).
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Yes Microsoft uses OpenAI APIs. What is the point you're trying to make beyond that? It's still OpenAI software.
Microsoft doesn't "use" the APIs, they host them on their own servers and have a license to do so and re-license to Azure users. If something goes wrong with OpenAI (given that it sounds like many key employees are leaving), Azure will stay up and you can keep using the APIs from MS.