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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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But a number of those other employees have said they'll leave if Altman isn't rehired.

Bullshit. They are not quitting

Maybe not instantly. But there's a version where they don't agree with certain decisions and will now be more open to other opportunities.

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Sorry, which character are you talking about? (Also lol "religious text", how dare people have didactic opinions.)

The one with the same name as the new CEO. Pretty straightforward. > Also lol "religious text", how dare people have didactic opinions. That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post. It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive.

Oh hey there he is, cool. I had a typo in my search, I think.

> That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post.

Yes, almost as if "Lesswrong is a community blog dedicated to refining the art of human rationality."

> It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive.

I don't think anybody either asked somebody to, or actually did, donate all their money. As to "joining a cult group house polycule", to my knowledge that's just SF. There's certainly nothing in the Sequences about how you have to join a cult group house polycule. To be honest, I consider all the people who joined cult group house polycules, whose existence I don't deny, to have a preexisting cult group house polycule situational condition. (Living in San Francisco, that is.)

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Death. The default consequence of AGI's arrival is doom. Aligning a super intelligence with our desires is a problem that no one has solved yet. "The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else." ---- Listen to Dwarkesh Podcast with Eliezer or Carl Shulman to know more about this.

> Aligning a super intelligence with our desires is a problem that no one has solved yet. It's a problem that we haven't seen the existence of yet. It's like saying no one has solved the problem of alien invasions.

The argument would be that by the time we see the problem it will be too late. We didn’t really anticipate the unreasonable effectiveness of transformers until people started scaling them, which happened very quickly.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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This is wild speculation, but I just noticed whenever I load the ChatGPT page, it will briefly say 'ChatGPT Alpha' before switching to ChatGPT 4. Maybe they created the new model and there's something interesting about it?

Same here. I thought it's a React state management issue. But it could be GPT-5 Alpha.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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I'm actually getting tired of this whole story, jeez. they had an interim CEO: why exactly do they need a new interim CEO? it's been a couple of weekend days, zero business days. Not taking sides, none of this makes any sense, so much drama. hypothesis: there's too much money on the table, and inasmuch as some people care more about the public welfare than money, too much of that too (meaning, a lot of money in somet…

It's the nerd version of keeping up with the kardashians.

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Their whole board is a joke The smartest white hot startup on the planet has the smallest board and most inexperienced How did that even happen on Sam’s watch? My take: he always thought Ilya would have his back with Greg and the 3 overrule ruled anybody , so they kept it small Bad idea

> How did that even happen on Sam’s watch? What do you imagine he could have done about the board of a non-profit as CEO and fellow board-member?

As CEO and a board member, he was better positioned than literally anyone else to move changes to the governance structure of the nonprofit.

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OpenAI has hundreds more employees, all of whom are incredibly smart. While they will definitely lose the leadership and talent of those two, it’s not as if a nuclear bomb dropped on their HQ and wiped out all their engineers! So questioning whether they will survive seems very silly and incredibly premature to me

Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter re-tweeted Sam Atlman's heart tweet with their own heart or some other supportive message. I'm sure that's a sign that they are all team Sam - this includes a ton of researchers you see on most papers that came out of OpenAI. That's a good chunk of their research team and that'd be a very big loss. Also there are tons of engineers (and I know a few of t…

Presumably there is some IP assignment agreement that would make it tricky for Sam to start an OpenAI competitor without a lot of legal exposure?

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TheInformation: Dozens of Staffers Quit OpenAI After Sutskever Says Altman Won’t Return >Dozens of OpenAI staffers internally announced they were quitting the company Sunday night, said a person with knowledge of the situation, after board director and chief scientist Ilya Sutskever told employees that fired CEO Sam Altman would not return. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/dozens-of-staffers-q...

Tip for builders: you can use the GPT APIs on Microsoft Azure. Managed reliably, nobody's quitting, no drama. Same APIs, just with better controls, global availability, and a very stable, reliable, and trustworthy provider. (disclosure: I work at Azure, but this is just my own observation).

Question: how difficult is it to get that no retention waiver on prompts and responses?

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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TheInformation: Dozens of Staffers Quit OpenAI After Sutskever Says Altman Won’t Return >Dozens of OpenAI staffers internally announced they were quitting the company Sunday night, said a person with knowledge of the situation, after board director and chief scientist Ilya Sutskever told employees that fired CEO Sam Altman would not return. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/dozens-of-staffers-q...

Tip for builders: you can use the GPT APIs on Microsoft Azure. Managed reliably, nobody's quitting, no drama. Same APIs, just with better controls, global availability, and a very stable, reliable, and trustworthy provider. (disclosure: I work at Azure, but this is just my own observation).

How the same? Does it have the new Assistant API too?

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Anyone worth a shit will leave and go work with Sam. OpenAI will be left with a bunch of below average grifters.

In a dispute between people willing to sacrifice profit for values and those chasing the profit, why on earth would you put grifters on team values over profit?

I'm assuming the original comment meant that the grifters would not be extended a new offer after their colleagues learned that they were not as good as their CV said at open AI.
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