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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Post by 15457345234 »

happytiger wrote: post #367
alex_young wrote: post #257

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The heart tweet rebellion is about as meaningful as adding a hashtag supporting one side of your favorite conflict. Come on. “By 5 pm everyone will quit if you don’t do x”. Response: tens of heart emojis.

I take it you have never made a pledge to someone. It’s a signal. The only meaning is the circumstances under which the signal is given: Sam made an ask. These were answers.

So is this a company or something else that starts with a c? (Thinking of a 4 letter word.)

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Post by sangnoir »

zombiwoof wrote: post #149
dereg wrote: post #125

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Don't forget Tasha McCauley's husband, Joseph Gordon Levitt, has been vocally anti-AI during the SAG-AFTRA strike, an event for which AI was a huge point of contention. It's a poisoned board.

Their whole board is a joke The smartest white hot startup on the planet has the smallest board and most inexperienced How did that even happen on Sam’s watch? My take: he always thought Ilya would have his back with Greg and the 3 overrule ruled anybody , so they kept it small Bad idea

> How did that even happen on Sam’s watch?

What do you imagine he could have done about the board of a non-profit as CEO and fellow board-member?

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Post by calf »

maxbond wrote: post #330
surrealize wrote: post #211

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If you fire one board member (Altman) and remove another from the board (Brockman) it's not exactly friendly either

Firing generally isn't friendly, but no one "took over." The people who had the power exercised it. Maybe they shouldn't have, I feel no compulsion to argue on their behalf, but calling it a "takeover" isn't correct. I think when people say "takeover" or "coup" it's because they want to convey their view of the moral character of events, that they believe it was an improper decision. But it muddies the waters and I w…

"It's a coup" is loaded language and lets the user insinuate their position without actually explaining and justifying it.

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Post by FeepingCreature »

astrange wrote: post #387
bottlepalm wrote: post #182

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Ah yes you're either a doomer or e/acc. Pick an extreme. Everything must be polarized.

There's a character in HPMOR named after the new CEO. (That's the religious text of the anti-AI cult that founded OpenAI. It's in the form of a very long Harry Potter fanfic.)

Sorry, which character are you talking about? (Also lol "religious text", how dare people have didactic opinions.)

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Post by famouswaffles »

frabcus wrote: post #337
shippintoboston wrote: post #4

Crazy how a 4 person board staved off pressure from a behemoth like Microsoft

This could all be good for Microsoft. Microsoft want OpenAI to do research, and give them the model to run on Azure. They certainly don't need OpenAI competing in consumer products. ChatGPT could have been a Micrsoft product in an only slightly different timeline. And they'd rather they didn't compete in API serving, they'd rather everyone currently using OpenAI had to shift to Azure.

This hinges on Open ai being as forthcoming with new models as they previously were. I'm not sure that's going to happen. Certainly the new board will be more inherently against it. Not sure what outs they have though besides the obvious one.

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Post by DantesKite »

altdataseller wrote: post #88
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #57

I still cannot process what’s happened to one of the most prominent and hyped companies of the past year in just one weekend. If it’s true that Altman won’t return to OpenAI (or alternatively: that the current board won’t step down) then where does that leave OpenAI? Microsoft can’t be happy, as evidenced by reporting that Nadella was acting as mediator to bring him back. Does OpenAI survive this? Will be super inter…

OpenAI has hundreds more employees, all of whom are incredibly smart. While they will definitely lose the leadership and talent of those two, it’s not as if a nuclear bomb dropped on their HQ and wiped out all their engineers! So questioning whether they will survive seems very silly and incredibly premature to me

Andrej Karpathy literally just tweeted the nuclear radiation emoji lol.

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Post by sgift »

rawgabbit wrote: post #298

Someone help me understand OpenAI’s situation. If Sutskever remains at the company, OpenAi can continue to improve its ChatGPT models and produce model 5.0? What leverage does Microsoft does have over OpenAi? Can Microsoft shut off access to their hardware to support Altman? Why would Microsoft want this?

> If Sutskever remains at the company, OpenAi can continue to improve its ChatGPT models and produce model 5.0?

I think the more important question is: Is Sutskever interested in a model 5.0 anytime soon? If he really ousted Sam A. because he thought they moved "too fast" wouldn't he rather work on making 4.0 "more secure" (whatever that means) instead of producing a 5.0?

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Post by dllthomas »

stravant wrote: post #277
dragonwriter wrote: post #12

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Who do you imagine is going to sue, and on what basis?

You really don't think someone involved can come up with something?

People can always come up with something, so you need more than that for an interesting prediction.
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