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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Can’t wait to see how many staffers who said they would quit sheep their way into the office tomorrow to collect their million dollar salaries Thanks Sam we bluffed but no way we quiting

Most employees are on the profit-sharing-esque compensation. And guess what OpenAI will not be focusing on? Profit. They are not gonna quit tomorrow. They will leave over time due to the low compensation.

*lower compensation

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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I'm actually getting tired of this whole story, jeez.

they had an interim CEO: why exactly do they need a new interim CEO? it's been a couple of weekend days, zero business days. Not taking sides, none of this makes any sense, so much drama.

hypothesis: there's too much money on the table, and inasmuch as some people care more about the public welfare than money, too much of that too (meaning, a lot of money in something usually means it's something important, something of value, and therefore not all bad; so this is all just people trying to steer things the way they want them to go rather than the way other people want them to go)

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Can’t wait to see how many staffers who said they would quit sheep their way into the office tomorrow to collect their million dollar salaries Thanks Sam we bluffed but no way we quiting

Well the value of the company has almost certainly taken a large hit, especially now that Sam is definitely not returning

And no way Thrive, which was just about to buy up employee shares at $80-$90b, is going to go through with the tender offer now

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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post #28

Foundational AI companies fracturing is going to be good for the overall market. Just like Anthropic spinning off from OpenAI brought some very cool research (particularly liked the functional introspection vs node based stuff), Altman going into his own venture to compete will help diversify the overall space. And while many seem to be thinking this is going to bode poorly for OpenAI, I think perhaps long term it mi…

I wonder how successful Sam's next AI venture will be without Ilya.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter Selection bias?

Not if it's a big sample set. There's a guy on twitter who make a list with every OpenAI researcher he could find on twitter and almost all of them did react to Sams tweet in a supportive way.

Large sample =/= (inherently) representative. What percentage of OpenAI researchers are on Twitter?

Follow-up: Why is only some fraction on Twitter?

This is almost certainly a confounder, as is often the case when discussing reactions on Twitter vs reactions in the population.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter re-tweeted Sam Atlman's heart tweet with their own heart or some other supportive message. I'm sure that's a sign that they are all team Sam - this includes a ton of researchers you see on most papers that came out of OpenAI. That's a good chunk of their research team and that'd be a very big loss. Also there are tons of engineers (and I know a few of t…

It's always been my observation that the actual heavyweights of any hardcore engineering project are the ones that avoid snarky lightweight platforms like twitter like the plague. I would imagine that if you based hiring and firing decisions on the metric of 'how often this employee tweets' you could quite effectively cut deadwood. With that in mind...

> It's always been my observation that the actual heavyweights of any hardcore engineering project are the ones that avoid snarky lightweight platforms like twitter like the plague.

What other places are there to engage with the developer community?

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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post #97

Not a word from Ilya. I can’t wrap my mind around his motivation. Did he really fire Sam over “AI safety” concerns? How is that remotely rational.

To shine some light on the true nature of the "AI safety tribe" aspects I highly recommend reading the other top HN post / article : https://archive.is/Vqjpr

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Huh? Last time I checked I'm paying OpenAI for my Chatgpt plus subscription, not msft

Microsoft owns the GPUs and has rights to continue operating current models. The only value OpenAI had was cohesion of engineering talent as it relates to model development velocity. https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/ai/openai-azure-s... https://www.semafor.com/article/11/18/2023/openai-has-receiv... > Only a fraction of Microsoft’s $10 billion investment in OpenAI has been wired to the startup, while a sign…

I bet if Microsoft leaves anothe tech giant would be more than glad to provide some GPUs
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