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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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So long Mira Murati. That's the second CEO OpenAI has ousted in one week. https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

Her move makes even less sense than what the board did. The board told her the day before that they're firing Sam, so she obviously accepted it. But, one day later she caves and sides with Sam (that's what the heart tweet means)? That's weak leadership and resolve.

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Actually this is going to be great for Microsoft. By cutting its other revenue streams OpenAI has lost all of its leverage. So now will shrink to being effectively an external dev team for Bing / Windows.

Huh? Last time I checked I'm paying OpenAI for my Chatgpt plus subscription, not msft

ChatGPT Plus was never intended to be OpenAI's main revenue stream. The real cash is in the GPT API, which they're currently making good money on, but which also directly competes with a GPT API offered by Azure.

OP might have a point: if OpenAI declines, devs might prefer the Azure API over the OpenAI API for factors like stability, quality, response time, better integration with existing Azure stack, etc.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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I still cannot process what’s happened to one of the most prominent and hyped companies of the past year in just one weekend. If it’s true that Altman won’t return to OpenAI (or alternatively: that the current board won’t step down) then where does that leave OpenAI? Microsoft can’t be happy, as evidenced by reporting that Nadella was acting as mediator to bring him back. Does OpenAI survive this? Will be super inter…

OpenAI has hundreds more employees, all of whom are incredibly smart. While they will definitely lose the leadership and talent of those two, it’s not as if a nuclear bomb dropped on their HQ and wiped out all their engineers! So questioning whether they will survive seems very silly and incredibly premature to me

The perception right now is that the board doesn't care about investors, this will kill this company that is burning money at an insane rate. Employees will run for the exits unless they are convinced that there is a future exit.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually this is going to be great for Microsoft. By cutting its other revenue streams OpenAI has lost all of its leverage. So now will shrink to being effectively an external dev team for Bing / Windows.

Huh? Last time I checked I'm paying OpenAI for my Chatgpt plus subscription, not msft

Your $20/mo isn’t covering their costs. They sought additional financing.

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Who's gonna sue if there's no shareholders being that it's a non profit?

There are investors including sequoia, Tiger Global and Microsoft[1]. They may well have standing to sue. [1] Sorry - the full list is behind a paywall https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/openai/company_finan...

I believe those are investor the in for-profit organization while the board is responsible for the non-profit org, and I believe the for-profit is bound to the mission of the non profit but not the other way around.

But I'm sure someone here knows the legal structure better than I do, I just quickly skimmed over

https://openai.com/our-structure

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Crazy how a 4 person board staved off pressure from a behemoth like Microsoft

It will be funny if MSFT relicense GPT4 to Sam's new venture, I am very much looking forward to this development.

MS doesn't own GPT4

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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I still cannot process what’s happened to one of the most prominent and hyped companies of the past year in just one weekend. If it’s true that Altman won’t return to OpenAI (or alternatively: that the current board won’t step down) then where does that leave OpenAI? Microsoft can’t be happy, as evidenced by reporting that Nadella was acting as mediator to bring him back. Does OpenAI survive this? Will be super inter…

OpenAI has hundreds more employees, all of whom are incredibly smart. While they will definitely lose the leadership and talent of those two, it’s not as if a nuclear bomb dropped on their HQ and wiped out all their engineers! So questioning whether they will survive seems very silly and incredibly premature to me

Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter re-tweeted Sam Atlman's heart tweet with their own heart or some other supportive message.

I'm sure that's a sign that they are all team Sam - this includes a ton of researchers you see on most papers that came out of OpenAI. That's a good chunk of their research team and that'd be a very big loss. Also there are tons of engineers (and I know a few of them) who joined OpenAI recently with pure financial incentives. They'll jump to Sam's new company cause of course that's where they'd make real money.

This coupled with investors like Microsoft backing off definitely makes it fair to question the survival of OpenAI in the form we see today.

And this is exactly what makes me question Adam D'Angelo's motives as a board member. Maybe he wanted OpenAI to slow down or stop existing, to keep his Poe by Quora (and their custom assistants) relevant. GPT Agents pretty much did what Poe was doing overnight, and you can have as many as them with your existing 20$ ChatGPT Plus subscription. But who knows I'm just speculating here like everyone else.

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