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Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by pc »

amacneil wrote: post #58

Since there is so much negativity in this thread, let me balance it with my take as someone who worked at Cruise for 5 years (left 3 years ago). Kyle is the smartest, most technically capable, driven person I have ever had the opportunity to work for. He had a deep technical understanding of the system, a great intuition for unnecessary complexity, and a constant desire to find and resolve engineering bottlenecks. An…

I knew Kyle in college. He was extremely smart, kind, patient, and friendly. (He was a few years ahead of me; I was a random Irish freshman who had just shown up.) Looking back, he's one of the people who inspired me to get into startups. While we never ended up working together, it wasn't for lack of trying on my side -- everyone said he was phenomenal, and I tried hard to persuade him to join Stripe in the early days.

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by xnx »

2 prominent Google competitors really hurting from self inflicted wounds this week. OpenAI has good tech, but surprisingly disorganized management. Cruise was considered a Waymo competitor (despite having far inferior tech) may undergo some radical changes. Could Apple possibly acquire Cruise assets? Would Apple even want them? Reputational risk to Apple is huge.

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by exogeny »

pc wrote: post #71
amacneil wrote: post #58

Since there is so much negativity in this thread, let me balance it with my take as someone who worked at Cruise for 5 years (left 3 years ago). Kyle is the smartest, most technically capable, driven person I have ever had the opportunity to work for. He had a deep technical understanding of the system, a great intuition for unnecessary complexity, and a constant desire to find and resolve engineering bottlenecks. An…

I knew Kyle in college. He was extremely smart, kind, patient, and friendly. (He was a few years ahead of me; I was a random Irish freshman who had just shown up.) Looking back, he's one of the people who inspired me to get into startups. While we never ended up working together, it wasn't for lack of trying on my side -- everyone said he was phenomenal, and I tried hard to persuade him to join Stripe in the early da…

This is as good of an endorsement as you'll ever see.

Also I am happy to be your next choice after Kyle. I'll join Stripe, Patrick!

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by dang »

Sebguer wrote: post #74

Why was the submission title changed from the much more descriptive actual article headline? I have no idea who Kyle Vogt is without the context of 'co-founder and CEO'.

Because readers can figure this kind of thing out. It's not hard.

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

#76

Post by friendlyasparag »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #51
ra7 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/24/dmv-immediately-suspends-c...

Ah, thank you. Them not disclosing the full video from the outset was a mistake, but it’s surprising that it escalated so much. A human driver could’ve easily made the same mistake — pulling over isn’t uncommon after an accident, and there’s no way to detect someone under your car other than getting out, which is usually not very safe. Oh well. Maybe next decade.

The escalation is perhaps less surprising given that it happened while Cruise had many (much smaller) traffic issues and CPUC was already significantly limiting Cruise. They were on very thin ice.

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by encoderer »

eklitzke wrote: post #48
tsunamifury wrote: post #11

I’m guessing cruise is pretty much over. What’s really unfortunate is I worked with many people who worked with Kyle and no one had a single good thing to say about him. And I’ve often heard that before with people who knew other CEOs but they kinda grudgingly admitted they did what was needed to get it done. However over and over I just heard phrases like “lost” “aimless” and “confused mess” with Kyle and it never w…

I worked at Cruise (I left about 2.5 years ago) and I have the opposite impression about Kyle. Kyle was a very charismatic leader who was really in the trenches. Unlike a lot of CEOs he was really visible in the office, he would drop in on meetings if he had breaks in his calendar, he was active on Jira and Slack, etc. Even though I was just a rank-and-file engineer I was in a number of meetings with him and some of…

Do they raise money from anybody aside from the gm board?

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by ra7 »

xnx wrote: post #72

2 prominent Google competitors really hurting from self inflicted wounds this week. OpenAI has good tech, but surprisingly disorganized management. Cruise was considered a Waymo competitor (despite having far inferior tech) may undergo some radical changes. Could Apple possibly acquire Cruise assets? Would Apple even want them? Reputational risk to Apple is huge.

Apple typically doesn’t do large acquisitions though. It’s not clear they even take AVs seriously as their own in-house development has been so minimal and late.

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by rmason »

bigyikes wrote: post #65

Everyone laughed at Tesla for their gung-ho, vision-only approach. Only Waymo and Cruise will make it, they said. Will be very interesting to see who is left standing. Maybe Tesla will never crack self-driving, but an insolvent company definitely won't either.

My first thought was that Ford and Stellantis have been given a golden opportunity to catch up. But that's only if they realize that's the case.

Re: Kyle Vogt resigns from Cruise

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Post by tempestn »

dang wrote: post #75
Sebguer wrote: post #74

Why was the submission title changed from the much more descriptive actual article headline? I have no idea who Kyle Vogt is without the context of 'co-founder and CEO'.

Because readers can figure this kind of thing out. It's not hard.

But why editorialize the title to make it less descriptive? I could understand not adding that information if it wasn't there already, but it's in the article title.
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