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OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by wahnfrieden »

bko wrote: post #462
wahnfrieden wrote: post #438

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you're aware openai trained on a boatload of pirated ebooks? they "steal" access to data because the LLM launders it on the other end

What do you base this on? Llms know the contents of books because they are analyzed, reviewed and spoken about everywhere. Pick some obscure book that doesn't show up on any social media and ask about it's contents. GPT won't have a clue

https://qz.com/openai-books-piracy-microsoft-meta-google-cha....

What's your evidence contrary to this? Sounds like your common sense rather than inside knowledge

Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by lxgr »

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh wrote: post #458
monocasa wrote: post #454

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Easier than that would just be downloading the torrent of all of Reddit through Sept 2023. https://academictorrents.com/details/89d24ff9d5fbc1efcdaf9d7...

That's fascinating that the total size is so tiny — only 2.4 TB‽ I assume this must be only the text portion, and heavily compressed?

Text really doesn't take up that much space, and in addition it compresses pretty well.

The entire English language Wikipedia is only around 60GB in a format that can be readily searched and randomly accessed (ZIM), for example: https://kiwix.org/

Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by skygazer »

aunty_helen wrote: post #459
skygazer wrote: post #248

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Competence is generally about effectiveness of execution, and less about intent. This was a foreseeable hot mess executed with staggering naïveté.

No it wasn’t. For a long time Sam was the guy. Then, he progressively sold more and more of the companies future to Ms. You don’t need chatgpt and it’s massive gpu consumption to achieve the goals of openai. A small research team and a few million, this company becomes a quaint quiet overachiever. The company started to hockey stick and everyone did what they knew, Sam got the investment and money. The tech team hunk…

You're arguing their most viable path was to fire him, wreak havoc and immediately seek to rehire and further empower him whilst diminishing themselves in the process? It's so convoluted, it just might work!

Whether fulfilling their mission or succumbing to palace intrigue, it was a gamble they took. If they didn't realize it was a gamble, then they didn't think hard enough first. If they did realize the risks, but thought they must, then they didn't explore their options sufficiently. They thought their hand was unbeatable. They never even opened the playbook.

Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by zameerb1 »

comfysocks wrote: post #456
tw04 wrote: post #114

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> If Elon is able to promise him the resources he needs to do his research then I think it could work out. Who on earth would ever trust an Elon promise at this point? The guy literally can’t open his mouth without making a promise he can’t keep. Unless Ilya is getting something in a bulletproof contract and is willing to spend a decade fighting for it in court, he’s an idiot doing anything with Elon.

Yeah, I imagine Karpathy had his fill of Musk and left. Probably with a stiff non disparagement agreement.

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Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by pjot »

Zambyte wrote: post #415
agnosticmantis wrote: post #394

Many are speculating that Sam Altman could just move on and create another OpenAI 2.0 because he could easily attract talent and investors. What this misses is all the regulatory capture that he’s been campaigning for. All the platforms have now closed their gardens. Authors and artists are much more vigilant about copyright etc. So it’s now a totally different game compared to 3 years ago because the data is not jus…

He should make ClosedAI and then publish all the work as open source

Yeah that will show ‘em!

Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by lmm »

lxgr wrote: post #473
q7xvh97o2pDhNrh wrote: post #458

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That's fascinating that the total size is so tiny — only 2.4 TB‽ I assume this must be only the text portion, and heavily compressed?

Text really doesn't take up that much space, and in addition it compresses pretty well. The entire English language Wikipedia is only around 60GB in a format that can be readily searched and randomly accessed (ZIM), for example: https://kiwix.org/

Does Kiwix actually work? I see people hyping it here but I could never get it to actually, y'know, download the file and display the wikipedia on my phone.

Re: OpenAI negotiations to reinstate Altman hit snag over board role

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Post by sudosysgen »

tsunamifury wrote: post #449
cthalupa wrote: post #302

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They still exist and put out a product used by quite a few people, so quite well? You can't judge a non-profit by the same success metrics as a for-profit.

They have been a consistent downward spiral into irrelevance. So I’d say … not fine.

They are the last survivor offering an alternative to Blink and seem to be indefinitely sustainable for their core product.

Other companies tried competing against Chrome, and so far Mozilla is the most successful, as everyone else gave up and ship Chrome skins people basically only use by subterfuge or coercion. I'd say that's pretty good.

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