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Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by Rebelgecko »

ed wrote: post #11
4death4 wrote: post #4

Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.

Based on my limited gaming experience I agree with the original quote (the last game I played was cyberpunk). Is there an obvious “everyone should play ___” recommendation, that has story and characters with depth and believable motives? Edit: I realize that was kind of a lazy question so thanks to everyone for the answers!

Lots of great recommendations here, I'd add in Spec Ops: The Line.. although perhaps that's cheating since it's inspired by a movie that's based on a book. I won't say which so you can find out for yourself:)

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by jsbisviewtiful »

paganel wrote: post #23
4death4 wrote: post #4

Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.

Past a certain age and once you reach a certain mindset video games become "old" pretty damn fast. The problem is that a lot of Western men still choose to remain teenagers even past their mid-30s, and this is of course truer when it comes to the demographic of this forum.

Sounds like you’re just judgmental and closed-minded, unable to comprehend that others have different lives, opinions and motivations than you. Grow up.

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by Rebelgecko »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #31
hotdogscout wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Beginner's Guide, Fallout New Vegas, Disco Elysium, Professor Layton series, Mother series, Bioshock series, 999, Virtue's Last Reward, Portal, Vampire the Masquerade, Arcanum, Death Stranding, Silent Hill, Kid Icarus Uprising, there are so many.

I think you should be considering the number of games matching the criteria against the total number of games available. You will see that even 100 is a drop in the ocean of hundreds of thousands of games.

Sure, but for every Citizen Kane you also have hundreds of movies like Shark Exorcist, Plan 9, Catwoman, etc

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by hotdogscout »

mcpackieh wrote: post #10
4death4 wrote: post #4

Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.

If you judge it by playtime it's probably true. Story-driven games like TLOU sell well sometimes but the games that gamers spend the most time with are those with attractive gameplay loops; the story just becomes window dressing. Personally I put down TLOU after two or three hours; the story didn't excite me (generic zombie slop, sorry) and the sneak/combat gameplay was too bland to keep me interested. On the other h…

When I first played TLOU I had that same reaction but as the other comment said it is a lot deeper than it seems. An allegory for all types of love represented by each location.

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by _aavaa_ »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #43
bossyTeacher wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should be considering the number of games matching the criteria against the total number of games available. You will see that even 100 is a drop in the ocean of hundreds of thousands of games.

Sure, but for every Citizen Kane you also have hundreds of movies like Shark Exorcist, Plan 9, Catwoman, etc

I'd further argue that while Citizen Kane might have been an important movie for moving the genre forward, it certainly does not fit the criteria of "a movie everyone should watch".

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

namaria wrote: post #22
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #9

The movie industry is going to dwindle in size and power over the next decade. Look at the crappy AI apps that can generate 'movies' available now , look at what unreal engine 5 can do, look at what ChatGPT can do...in 5 - 10 years, we will be able to give a prompt and have photorealistic movies/tv episodes generated, which will satisfy the vast majority of people.

I really don't think private puppet shows, as visually impressive as they could get, would be engaging. The point of a good story is in no small part the surprise and the transformation in world view it is capable of delivering.

AI can already write scripts that match bottom of the barrel entertainment like the fast and the furious movies. The resultant content will absolutely be engaging for the majority of the population, and it can absolutely contain surprise and transformation while delivering a world view.

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by CrimsonCape »

paganel wrote: post #23
4death4 wrote: post #4

Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.

Past a certain age and once you reach a certain mindset video games become "old" pretty damn fast. The problem is that a lot of Western men still choose to remain teenagers even past their mid-30s, and this is of course truer when it comes to the demographic of this forum.

What in your opinion is the difference between a video game and and a movie? Do you have an equally bad opinion of moviegoers?

According to the below link, the video game industry dwarfs Hollywood and the music industry. Do you acknowledge that video games are more culturally significant than say, the Beatles, for the current generation?

https://gamerhub.co.uk/gaming-industry-dominates-as-the-high...

According to a report by SuperData Research, the global gaming market was valued at $159.3 billion in 2020. This includes revenue from console games, PC games, mobile games, and esports. To put that in perspective, the music industry was valued at $19.1 billion in 2020, while the movie industry was valued at $41.7 billion. That means the gaming industry is making more than three times as much money as the music industry and almost four times as much as the movie industry.

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

ed wrote: post #11
4death4 wrote: post #4

Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.

Based on my limited gaming experience I agree with the original quote (the last game I played was cyberpunk). Is there an obvious “everyone should play ___” recommendation, that has story and characters with depth and believable motives? Edit: I realize that was kind of a lazy question so thanks to everyone for the answers!

The Last of Us

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by jay_kyburz »

4death4 wrote: post #4

Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.

A lot of game developers, myself included, don't think scripted stories belong in games at all. A lot of they time they are bolted on because some players expect one.

All the best games have no story, Factorio, Slay the Spire, Vampire Survivors, Quake, Pacman.

Re: Steven Spielberg Predicts 'Implosion' of Film Industry (2013)

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Post by moffkalast »

hotdogscout wrote: post #14
ed wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on my limited gaming experience I agree with the original quote (the last game I played was cyberpunk). Is there an obvious “everyone should play ___” recommendation, that has story and characters with depth and believable motives? Edit: I realize that was kind of a lazy question so thanks to everyone for the answers!

The Beginner's Guide, Fallout New Vegas, Disco Elysium, Professor Layton series, Mother series, Bioshock series, 999, Virtue's Last Reward, Portal, Vampire the Masquerade, Arcanum, Death Stranding, Silent Hill, Kid Icarus Uprising, there are so many.

A few more that come to mind: Life is Strange, GTA 4, Red Dead Redemption 2, Dishonored, Mass Effect, The Witcher 3.
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