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OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

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Re: OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

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at this point returning would make the situation worse. better a completely fresh start if openai is to have a future.

Sam wins either way and holds all the power with Microsoft’s backing. The only question is whether OpenAI survives (it will not if Sam and Microsoft go elsewhere) and who gets purged post coup attempt.

Re: OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

#12

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No, not necessarily any more than Steve Jobs returning to Apple made it worse.

What’s up with comparing altman to steve jobs? He’s well behind him on the scale of leadership, inspiration, vision, and not to mention he had little to no contribution to ai, other than a crypto style aggressive marketing campaign, sprinkled with fud fomo and gaslighting.

Agreed. The cult of personality seems to have a strong grip on the US zeitgeist.

Technology is the new religion and Musk/Altman are the new messiahs, with Jobs and Gates as the patron saints.

Re: OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

#13

at this point returning would make the situation worse. better a completely fresh start if openai is to have a future.

No, not necessarily any more than Steve Jobs returning to Apple made it worse.

Jobs didn't return to Apple after a couple days

Re: OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

#15
Don't forget to checkout the LocalLLaMA subreddit to see the current state of hobbyist->small professional quality.

Obviously not on the level of GPT4/Claude (there are some good comparisions), but close enough to dispel any notion that this One True Saviour is needed for this field to advance. By all accounts he wasn't even spending that much time on it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/top/?t=month

Re: OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s up with comparing altman to steve jobs? He’s well behind him on the scale of leadership, inspiration, vision, and not to mention he had little to no contribution to ai, other than a crypto style aggressive marketing campaign, sprinkled with fud fomo and gaslighting.

Not saying you're wrong, but the analogy is easy to draw. Both are CEOs, both were ousted, both are charismatic, Apple is the most valuable company in history, and OpenAI is among the fastest growing in history.

Using analogy is often fallacy.

Re: OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not necessarily any more than Steve Jobs returning to Apple made it worse.

What’s up with comparing altman to steve jobs? He’s well behind him on the scale of leadership, inspiration, vision, and not to mention he had little to no contribution to ai, other than a crypto style aggressive marketing campaign, sprinkled with fud fomo and gaslighting.

Yeah the abrupt vibe shift on HN with regards to altman is pretty odd. Suddenly he's a Jobs-esque product visionary?
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